Who is the classier representative of the sport - Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko

[LacedUp]

Wach, Pianeta and Leapai were not the best opponents WK has faced.

Yet Wach was an experienced and undefeated fighter who out-talled and out-weighed WK and was even roided to the gills. He also has among the hardest chins of all time.

Pianeta, another very strong, heavy, tall undefeated opponent with nearly 30 fights experience.

Leapai- the worst opponent in a while, a squat, heavy, thick bull-type fighter with a big punch and good chin and decent record.

Please note none of these opponents ever padded their records with CW's

If those 3 are the ****test opponents Wlad has faced then bloody hell, WK definitely has an excellent resume, wouldn't you say?

And he beat them soundly too.

A certain other champion from a beloved era of yours fought rubbish opponents too, yet ones lighter, with really bad records and terrible physiques.

Were we watching the same guy?

Because I saw a guy without any skills whatsoever, who was knocked out by Kevin Johnson! And a guy with a 2-2 record.

Jesus, the level these guys will go to to big up their hero.

[Elroy1]

At first I thought this was a very respectable thread and fair question from LacedUp. And then I seen the "multiple choice". For an old time nut bag that was very childish lol.

Difficult to say as there can be different perspectives.

I would say WK because he is always respectful too his opponents, officials and never gets involved in trash talk, just lets his fists do the talking.

But I can see why some might like Lewis better, he had that charisma that really made the event and he certainly helped popularise HW during his reign.

I just think LL should miss out on this accolade because he was at times very full of himself and a bit degrading of fighters. I think he done a classy job at commentary too though.

In the ring though, Lennox was definitely "Class A".

[BattlingNelson]

Wlad is clearly on another level when it comes to CompuClinch numbers. He's up there with the worst I've ever seen. The man literally initiates 15 clinches per round.

Lewis could be bad, but most of the times he wasn't. And not on the level of Klitschko anyway.

But in terms of dirty fighting, it's Lewis by a mile. I cannot remember ever seeing a HW holding and hitting as much as Lummox did.

[LacedUp]

But in terms of dirty fighting, it's Lewis by a mile. I cannot remember ever seeing a HW holding and hitting as much as Lummox did.

No doubt Lennox's clinch-right uppercut was a tool he used a lot.

[Elroy1]

Were we watching the same guy?

Because I saw a guy without any skills whatsoever, who was knocked out by Kevin Johnson! And a guy with a 2-2 record.

Jesus, the level these guys will go to to big up their hero.

Ok LacedUp actually I'll give you that one, I exaggerated the last bit, Leapai doesn't have a really good record at all. But he was big and strong. And no, Alex didn't have much skill.

I'll level with ya on that issue a bit more actually, I was a bit disappointed in that choice of opponent. I wanted him to fight Pulev.

I would like WK to finish his career by fighting from ONLY this pool..

Wilder, Pulev, Stiverne, Arreola, Jennings, Perez, Fury, Haye, Chisora and obviously the winners of any of those fights.

He shouldn't be fighting undermenschen at this stage.

However the dominance of Alex was a fresh reminder of how it takes more than just a chin, a punch and a bulrush to get WK.

[Jewish-Reptile]

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That is possibly the dumbest statement I've ever heard. Their are many prime heavyweight fighter in history who could have easily dismantled the entire resume of the current champ.

I believe the elite of yesteryear wouldn't compare with the elite of the last decade,I mean who have we in thelast ten years,Wladimir,Vitali,Povetkin,Chagaev,possibly Haye,Peter and I'm gonna throw Jhon Ruiz in,as well as James Toney too who was competitive at the weight and could certainly mix it with the champions of history outside the last decade.

At least four of these guys I have defeating Ali easily and he is supposedly the goat in this thread right ?

This difference of opinion means jack.I am absolutely certain no doubts whatsoever the first four guys would be champion in any other era with today's methods applied versus the champion through any period of time,I'm talking 12 round fights not 15 as we've only seen the older boys doing 15's,although I would expect the guys from the last ten years to dominate from start to finish in a 15 round fight due to sports science and generally all round better conditioning.

Look at a prime Povetkin versus,Byrd,Chambers,Chagaev and Charr,ain't no sucker can tell me he wouldn't wipe the floor with Joe Louis.slickerbmovement,sharper reflexes,just generally a better all round boxer and athlete.his career isn't even over yet,watch the might of Stiverne,Fury,Wilder and Jennings avoid him like the bubonic plague.

That is only making a case for one guy in this era,who has never been formally recognised as the champion,although he has held a title.Povetkin is arguably the best guy outside of K2.

Chagaev is a tough hard hitting former champion too,unfortunate to not take the nod against Sacsha if truth be told.very evenly matched,probably tougher and stronger,yet not as slick or skilled,he'd give any former champion hell not 6'5".

[Elroy1]

But in terms of dirty fighting, it's Lewis by a mile. I cannot remember ever seeing a HW holding and hitting as much as Lummox did.

Lummox? LOL

Well a lot of fighters had their tactics.

Ruiz held, Wlad has broke the record for fighting, Ali held and cheated more than the girls on Sex and the city.

Foreman always spoke up against LL's holding and hitting but he could hardly talk, he pushed his opponents around as much as he hit them.

[LacedUp]

Ok LacedUp actually I'll give you that one, I exaggerated the last bit, Leapai doesn't have a really good record at all. But he was big and strong. And no, Alex didn't have much skill.

I'll level with ya on that issue a bit more actually, I was a bit disappointed in that choice of opponent. I wanted him to fight Pulev.

I would like WK to finish his career by fighting from ONLY this pool..

Wilder, Pulev, Stiverne, Arreola, Jennings, Perez, Fury, Haye, Chisora and obviously the winners of any of those fights.

He shouldn't be fighting undermenschen at this stage.

However the dominance of Alex was a fresh reminder of how it takes more than just a chin, a punch and a bulrush to get WK.

Alex Leapai was not worthy of sharing a ring with Wladimir Klitschko, it's as simple as that. He was way out of his league.

I also think Wlad didn't want to fight him in the first place, because he knows he doesn't have many fights left in his career, so why waste them on someone like Leapai? But he had to fight him.

I would really like to see him fight Fury at one stage or another. That's the most interesting fight for me. Pulev is not good enough for Wlad in my opinion. He's very tough and durable, but he's not punching hard enough or accurate enough.

Wilder/Fury - I would pay to see those fights against Wlad. And that's mainly because I think Wlad will have to perform to his best because he would know he's in there with a genuine test.

Sort of like when Lennox beat Michael Grant. When you face a puncher, you need to get them quick. i'd like to see Wlad in that situation.

[LacedUp]

At first I thought this was a very respectable thread and fair question from LacedUp. And then I seen the "multiple choice". For an old time nut bag that was very childish lol.

Difficult to say as there can be different perspectives.

I would say WK because he is always respectful too his opponents, officials and never gets involved in trash talk, just lets his fists do the talking.

But I can see why some might like Lewis better, he had that charisma that really made the event and he certainly helped popularise HW during his reign.

I just think LL should miss out on this accolade because he was at times very full of himself and a bit degrading of fighters. I think he done a classy job at commentary too though.

In the ring though, Lennox was definitely "Class A".

None of that is true.

[Jewish-Reptile]

But in terms of dirty fighting, it's Lewis by a mile. I cannot remember ever seeing a HW holding and hitting as much as Lummox did.

Lennox against Vitali led with a clinch,it's actually awesome technique,he throws a clinch.i was In awe.