Originally posted by Weebler I
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Will Haymon be forced to work with Oscar De La Hoya and HBO?
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Bottom Line...Al Haymon has more POWER IN BOXING than Oscar mostly because he has Mayweather as his bargaining Chip but also because he has the ability to get his fighters A LOT MORE MONEY which is why he is able to get a lot of fighters to sign with HIM
Oscar is the NAME, his lack of stability makes him unreliable IMO, you sign with Oscar he heads back to rehab...THEN WHAT? Now your career is stalled until your Promoter gets his life back together. What would have happened to GBP had it not been for Schaefer and Haymon keeping things going while Oscar went off to get his life together?
Oscar is taking the bigger risk trying to do things on his own because all he has is Canelo as a fighter he can claim as "HIS FIGHTER" on that GBP Roster. I am sure he has MORE but most of the big names at the moment on that GBP Roster are Haymon Fighters. Oscar is just the NAME but Schaefer has the KNOW HOW when it comes to setting up events.
He wants to end the "Cold War" because he knows he will NEED ARUM and maybe HBO as well if GBP SplitsLast edited by sicko; 05-23-2014, 10:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostThurman and Porter actually said in video interviews they're free agents but signed to Haymon. I think Khan's GBP deal ran out last summer, not sure if he signed a new one but he has since signed with Haymon.
I guess Richard Schaefer really was trying to screw over Oscar by not signing them to his promotional company but taking on all the costs to promote their fights. Can't really say I'm surprised he's going to get fired.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostBottom Line...Al Haymon has more POWER IN BOXING than Oscar mostly because he has Mayweather as his bargaining Chip but also because he has the ability to get his fighters A LOT MORE MONEY which is why he is able to get a lot of fighters to sign with HIM
Oscar is the NAME, hes lack of stability makes him unreliable IMO, you sign with Oscar he heads back to rehab...THEN WHAT? Now your career is stalled until your Promoter gets his life back together. What would have happened to GBP had it not been for Schaefer and Haymon keeping things going while Oscar went off to get his life together?
Oscar is taking the bigger risk trying to do things on his own because all he has is Canelo as a fighter he can claim as "HIS FIGHTER" on that GBP Roster. I am sure he has MORE but most of the big names at the moment on that GBP Roster are Haymon Fighters. Oscar is just the NAME but Schaefer has the KNOW HOW when it comes to setting up events.
He wants to end the "Cold War" because he knows he will NEED ARUM and maybe HBO as well if GBP Splits
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Originally posted by BreWall View PostIt's strange to me that Thurman is a free agent but signed to Haymon when Thurman is mostly accompanied by Schaefer. It almost seemed like Schaefer wanted it that way.
Bernard Hopkins always thanks Al Haymon and Richard Schaefer specifically after his fights. Wouldn't surprise me if he's also a free agent with no contract to GBP
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Originally posted by Rocky Rode View PostI doubt Oscar is going to run the company by himself. Sure he's obviously trying to mend relationships with HBO and TR. He's going to be the one with connections in the company, but I don't think that means he's going to run the company alone. He's just going to get someone to replace Richard Schaefer. Let's face it, these guys you get to run business side of things are a dime a dozen. It shouldn't be too hard to find a suitable replacement.
Khan and Victor Ortiz did not work out after he put a lot of work into hyping them when they was at 140 ESPECIALLY Victor! So you can have the NAME and get another guy to replace Shaefer but fans are coming out to see FIGHTERS FIGHT, not just because Oscar name is on it. Lets say Canelo loses to Lara...THEN WHAT FOR OSCAR?Last edited by sicko; 05-23-2014, 10:18 PM.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostReplacing Schaefer would be the EASY Part but what about finding TALENT, Oscar haven't done a good job at that AT ALL IMO other than Canelo. Oscar pick fighters based on how they LOOK not really how skill or talented they are in the Ring
Khan and Victor Ortiz did not work out after he put a lot of work into hyping them when they was at 140 ESPECIALLY Victor! So you can have the NAME and get another guy to replace Shaefer but fans are coming out to see FIGHTERS FIGHT, not just because Oscar name is on it. Lets say Canelo loses to Lara...THEN WHAT FOR OSCAR?
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostHe's clearly a highly intelligent guy but he may have pushed things a step too far.
He has HBO offside, he has a lawsuit pending with Main Events, messy situation with Golden Boy which is coming out, he has Top Rank offside, the big $32m Sho deal is not sounding as successful as hoped and his main ally Schaefer may no longer be in the game. The fans too are associating his name with not getting what the fights they want.
Things are turning on him just a little, you can only lose so many friends in business.
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