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  • Originally posted by Ragnar Lothbrok View Post
    well considering shot to bits past prime roy knocked down still prime calzaghe......

    that was a bad look by joe to be dropped by two 40 year old past prime boxers.

    tells you everything you need to know about calzaghe's career.
    Calzaghe was not in his prime in 2008.

    But he still loses in his prime to a prime Jones.

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    • Originally posted by Awesome-O View Post
      Calzaghe was not in his prime in 2008.

      But he still loses in his prime to a prime Jones.
      he was still prime. he beat two 40 year olds then retired when the super six came around with great young fighters in his career division.

      basically pulled the same thing floyd did when 147 became the hottest and deepest in all of boxing after beating ricky hatton.

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      • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Not really because you're not saying anything.

        I'm using points to support my argument.

        You're saying "Well take level of opposition away, he looked special didn't he?"

        You're not combating anything I've said with any actual points.
        Tell 'em danhamza!

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          I don't know what you're talking about. Jones' hands were much quicker and his feet were too. He was also far better defensively, had far more power, ring intelligence, everything. And forget Hopkins and Toney (yeah let's just overlook that), I'll take a mid-round KO win over Sugar Boy Malinga over 95% of Calzaghe's resume. You can ask Eubank what he thought of Malinga.
          without a doubt RJJ had quicker hands and probably feet too but RJJs feet were uneducated, he was often off balance but never faced anyone good enough to catch him on that. As he slowed with age, people started catching him.
          Calzaghe was quick and educated, a better schooled technician.

          What do u want me to say about Malinga? Its agood win but nothing else, he lost to every top level fighter he faced and gave Eubank hell but this is the same eubank who lost his killer instinct and looked very reluctant to fight after what happened in Watson II.

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          • Jones. TKO or wide decision.

            Prime RJJ was in a league of his own.

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            • roy jones by destruction

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              • I am a big Cal fan and think he is an ATG 168 pounder. With that being said you can take ANY FIGHTER EVER and put them against a prime RJJ at 168 and they would lose. Any of them.

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                • Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
                  I am a big Cal fan and think he is an ATG 168 pounder. With that being said you can take ANY FIGHTER EVER and put them against a prime RJJ at 168 and they would lose. Any of them.
                  No more need be said.

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                  • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    without a doubt RJJ had quicker hands and probably feet too but RJJs feet were uneducated, he was often off balance but never faced anyone good enough to catch him on that. As he slowed with age, people started catching him.
                    Calzaghe was quick and educated, a better schooled technician.

                    What do u want me to say about Malinga? Its agood win but nothing else, he lost to every top level fighter he faced and gave Eubank hell but this is the same eubank who lost his killer instinct and looked very reluctant to fight after what happened in Watson II.
                    On no level was Calzaghe the better schooled technician. At all.

                    Second, my point was that the Eubank win was better than 95% of Calzaghe's resume. Then again, Jones has a few wins like that and a couple that are better than everything on Joe's resume.

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                    • Originally posted by BKM-2010 View Post
                      Never lost officially. Otherwise Hopkins dropped and schooled him.
                      this is first time ive heard someone think hopkins won that fight, hopkins cheated in every way he could and he still lost convincingly.

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