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  • junior gong
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    #51
    Originally posted by Shambrolic
    Everyone is a financial advisor and owns businesses that is in the boxing field now..
    Including you, mr.floydgimp, so it seems.

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    • I Love Jesus!
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      #52
      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
      SHO did profit. It's only Floyd's haters who say otherwise. Dd HBO lose money over Pac Bradley II? I said did HBO lose money over Pac Bradley II...? Lol
      But unlike yourself showtime doesn't consider being covered in floyd jizz profit.

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      • Rome-By-Ko
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        #53
        what were the numbers for his PPV anyway..

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        • check hook
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          #54
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          Losing money was a strategy? I've done heard it all now!



          That's a moronic and simplistic viewpoint. Look up "loss leader" on google. Read the first 5 links to pages then come back to me after you've educated yourself. Generally it's done with a product. And no, i didn't do that. I have a marketing major in addition to the other two i have in corporate finance and banking. It's a basic strategy. They are hoping not to lose money, but they would have known it was a distinct possibility given the deal they signed him to. They are willing to bear that given the benefits they believe he will bring the networks boxing programming. I'm not saying it will work, but early sings are that it is achieving what they want. That doesn't mean the benefits will outweigh what they may lose on fights like geurrero and Maidana. Will depend on what they make in successful fights (Canelo). Loss leaders sometimes turn into winners or break even when the strategy revolves around a high end product, which is what i'm sure they are hoping for

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            #55
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
            If Showtime is trying to increase their viewership how come last year they only 1 fighted rated in the top 20, HBO had the other 19. The plan didn't work, but the fl*mo's are right, no one is in this to make money.
            Originally posted by Shambrolic
            Everyone is a financial advisor and owns businesses that is in the boxing field now..


            Well i actually am a fin advisor, though this is more of a strategic move you'd expect a management consultant to devise or a marketing "guru". Not really in my field of expertise as i haven't covered it since my days at uni. Also i mentioned HBO's superior product and subscribers. The Floyd move is designed to bridge that gap.
            Last edited by check hook; 05-20-2014, 10:32 AM.

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            • smoothsmg
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              #56
              Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
              Floyd is there to raise Showtimes profile and he's done that. If Showtimes lucky they break even over the 6 fight deal. HBO has been dominating boxing programming in the US for over 25 years. That's not going to change in 2 years. Personally I don't think Showtime has done a good enough job promoting the young talent they do have. Floyd's contract is already at the half way point.
              I think its the total opposite. Shotime does a great job at promoting their young talent. They have a boxing series dedicated to that alone. I have been overly joyed with my choice in picking up both HBO & Shotime (strictly for boxing) at the beginning of 2012. I have seen a ton of boxing on both, but easily in my eyes, Shotime has done a better job with getting me more fights.

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              • Shambrolic
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                #57
                Originally posted by smoothsmg
                I think its the total opposite. Shotime does a great job at promoting their young talent. They have a boxing series dedicated to that alone. I have been overly joyed with my choice in picking up both HBO & Shotime (strictly for boxing) at the beginning of 2012. I have seen a ton of boxing on both, but easily in my eyes, Shotime has done a better job with getting me more fights.
                Exactly I have both subscriptions as well on Cable and I always constantly see Boxing on Showtime. They even have Shobox where they showcase fighters that are young and coming up. HBO have Boxing After Dark but it's not as consistent as Shobox or had as many shows as Shobox. Showtime is definitely showcasing the most boxing for two years now. Also their presentation and how they get stories across it's just a much better platform.

                I enjoy both networks but Showtime looks like it has the most money and it definitely to me look like the premier place for boxing. Whoever is saying different doesn't have a subscription, no cable, or outside the country.

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                • ThePrince
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by New England
                  most businesses lose money early on. if you were involved with them, or qualified to speak on the subject, you'd know this.
                  at this clown acting like Showtime is some new start up business.

                  They have been around since 1976 (their competitor HBO was launched in 1972). They were in the Boxing business in the early-mid 90s when they were paying Mike Tyson $25-$30 million per fight. And unlike Floyd, Mike was justifying those paydays no matter who he fought (1.6 mil buys to fight a tomato can like Peter McNeely, 1.2-1.4 mil to fight Frank Bruno, etc).

                  So let's stop pretending this is some not for profit operation Show is running to build up their new business. There's not benefit to them losing tens of millions of dollars.

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                  • Kuyukut
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                    #59
                    sooner than later showtime will drop fraud like a bad habit... the same way hbo did to him!

                    fraud will soon signs with sesame street to play the role of himself or mr. fraud.
                    Last edited by Kuyukut; 05-20-2014, 12:08 PM.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                      SHO did profit. It's only Floyd's haters who say otherwise. Dd HBO lose money over Pac Bradley II? I said did HBO lose money over Pac Bradley II...? Lol
                      No you ******. Hbo made no guarantees to Pac, Arum did

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