Showtimes not focusing on profit with Mayweather.

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  • ADP02
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    #161
    Originally posted by [T][B][E]
    The only guy that is laughing is Floyd, But Showtime can laugh at HBO PPV numbers all year round.
    Numbers don't matter as much as making a profit .....

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    • ThePrince
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      #162
      Originally posted by check hook
      As a broadcaster of boxing Showtime has been way behind HBO for quite a while. The TS is correct, he just didn't articulate it all to well. The move to get Floyd is a "Loss Leading" strategy. At the very least Sho knew it had the potential to be that. What i mean by a loss leader in this case is Floyd as boxing's most marketable, recognisable brand is basically being offered to viewers by Showtime at below their profit margin when the number happens to hit less than a million. The reason this is being done is to build the Sho brand as the leader in boxing, attract new subscribers and viewers who watch boxing (they have less than HBO). The idea is to build profitability longer term by offering Floyd at a loss when the numbers don't meet expectation. This is why they made the deal.
      With the ratings for Showtime this year, looks like the 'loss leading' strategy is going swimmingly

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      • Dr Rumack
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        #163
        Showtime don't seem to be focusing on profits with anyone. It's starting to look like Espinoza has set up a charity.

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        • ThePrince
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          #164
          Originally posted by ThePrince
          Just posted to instagram- pics of Golden Boy's and Showtime's executives after finding out a Floyd fight lost them another $12-$15 million+



          #NoMoneyNoProblems



          #WeGettinDatExposureDoe #****HBO

          Word is, the party has been going on nonstop for the past 3+ weeks. They're so twisted, they forgot to release the buys figure.
          Another Floyd PPV bomb. It's so bad they won't even release buy numbers any more. Their once future cash cow Canelo just signed on long term with HBO. And Show Box is done.

          Showtime Execs be like:

          [IMG]http://i201.***********.com/albums/aa310/woody938/Motivators/I-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together.png~original[/IMG]



          #PartyDon'tStop #BrokeIsTheNewBlack
          Last edited by ThePrince; 09-25-2014, 04:48 PM.

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          • ReIoaded
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            #165
            Pacquiao went to Showtime for the Mosley fight. Pacquiao is responsible for making Showtime popular. The reason why Floyd is popular on Showtime is because he is piggy backing the popularity Pacquiao brought to Showtime.

            If Pacquiao hadn't gone to Showtime to make them a popular network, then Floyd would still be with HBO. Also, the only reason why Pacquiao and HBO is willing to work with Showtime is because Floyd made showtime famous and Pacquiao wants to piggy back off of the popularity that Mayweather brought to Showtime

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            • Wolfie*
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              #166
              That's bad business dude. Really.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #167
                They didn't need Mayweather for that. Somebody should get fired over this.

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                • al-Xander
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                  #168
                  Problem with that is that they started with throwing huge amounts of money on meaningless fights. It's not surprising why Haymon fighters are not fighting each other. They can't afford the amounts these fighters are demanding. These are not even Cotto/Canelo caliber fighters where profit is guaranteed.

                  If Santa Cruz gets $750,000 for fighting a sparring partner, how much do you think this guy would demand if he's asked to fight Rigondeaux?

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                  • Fetta
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by JoeMan
                    Problem with that is that they started with throwing huge amounts of money on meaningless fights. It's not surprising why Haymon fighters are not fighting each other. They can't afford the amounts these fighters are demanding. These are not even Cotto/Canelo caliber fighters where profit is guaranteed.

                    If Santa Cruz gets $750,000 for fighting a sparring partner, how much do you expect this guy would demand if he's asked to fight Rigondeaux?
                    With the constant repeating im beginning to think youre a spambot

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                    • junior gong
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                      #170
                      well this was unfortunate.

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