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Max Kellerman calls Juan Manuel Marquez after Alavarado fight "Su****ious"

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Kulilin View Post
    I don't see why boxing fans aren't clamoring for PED legalization. The majority of boxing discussions turn to fantasy fights that are impossible to make, if PEDs allow generations of fighters to overlap it equals more great fights for fans. I'm all for the legalization of PEDs and I'm against unfairly accusing fighters of cheating, but if any fighter has ever been su****ious its Marquez. A new and improved physique and increased punching power while maintaining his speed, activity level and ability to throw combinations at 40 is somewhat su****ious. If he is juiced and it makes for better fights though, I'd much rather it be available to every fighter.
    Yeah, make money an even greater factor in competition.

    Legalising performance enhancing drugs would ruin the sport. Strength and conditioning coaches would demand more money, as boxer's would bid for the best in the business. You'd create a sporting environment where individuals under a smaller promotional company, would not be able to physically compete would those blessed with an easier path.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Rocky=Ward View Post


      2:59

      better have proper testing for his next fight
      He obviously knows that Marquez will beat and possibly KO Pacquaio again if they fight a fifth fight, so he is getting his cheap shot su****ions in before the fight.

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      • #53
        Anyone who was/is su****ious of Pacquiao should be su****ious of Marquez. Probably more so, actually. I know people have fun laughing at the Pacquiao fans who now want extra testing, but are you really going to play ignorant just because of them?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ßringer View Post
          Everybody at the elite level in this sport is suspect, including Mayweather, Pacquiao, Ward, Donaire, Bradley, and Marquez.
          Everybody with money. The more money, the more su****ious.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ManUtd626 View Post
            HBO has never been high on Marquez since his fourth fight with Manny. They got even worse after Manny got KO. Any HBO/Showtime analyst opinions I take with a grain of salt since they always protect their cash cows.
            Too true. They don't mention the fact that Manny has seemingly lost all his power since Ariza walked out of the wildcard, and how he carried that power in the first place. Dude was knocking future HOF fighters around like he was a heavyweight, now he can't even put a mark on Rios or Bradley?

            Like Mayweather said, I been beating bigger men, but I'm not just walking through no damn fighters.

            If you're going to suspect JMM of juicing, then i'm sorry, but you have to have question marks over Manny. You simply cannot have it all your own way. If it's impossible for one fighter to gain/ carry power and knock out bigger fighters then it's impossible for all. Don't allow bias to apply to your favourite fighter.

            Do I think JMM was juicing against Pac in fight 4? probably

            Was Pac juicing against Cotto? probably
            Last edited by cameltoe; 05-18-2014, 03:33 PM.

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            • #56
              Excellent interview. Max is one the most knowledgeable figures in the sport without a doubt, very well spoken and articulated individual.

              My stance on this is that I do not only believe Marquez is on PEDs but also the majority of pro athletes in general. It's almost part of sports nowadays. Enchancing performance is something that everyone looks for at one point or another when they're athletes. I really can't blame them. It's fun to talk about it though, it is controversial and sparks something intriguing conversations.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                Back in the day a Boxer was wash up by age 34 take a look at Ali at age 37 he was shot but today we have Hopkins Maywaether Pacquaio Marquez The Klitchko brothers whats the deal here do they make better fried Chicken these days ? Everyone needs to stop playing ****** everyone boxing past age 34 is on Roids and HGH. Peoples training habits haven't improved so don't give me this bull crap cause the fighter of back in the day gave up 15 rounders some were hard fought and today we have a lot of these guys barley able to do 12 rounds even with Ariza Chino was a bit tired going into the 12 yet you had Duran Pryor Leonard Hagler ETC fighting 15 rounds like mad men. Salvador Sanchez was able to fight the 15th round like it was still the 1st round did he have steroid Pushers, like Conte Memo or Mayweather TRT Doctor did they Have Ariza No
                Your post is very juvenile. I won't comment on everything you have said. However, I will say that neither Hopkins nor Mayweather have ever drank, smoked or used drugs. They stay in the gym constantly and don't gain a lot of weight between fights. They have both lost a few steps over the years, but they are still performing at a high level because, even in losing a few steps, they are far superior in skill level to all the younger fighters fighting today. The difference between going 12 rounds and going 15 rounds is purely mental and doesn't have a damn thing to do with using PEDS or no using PEDS. Go back and look at some of those 15 rounds wars you are talking about and look at how tired those guys were and compare the number of punches being thrown in the 13th, 14th, and 15th rounds to the number they were throwing in the 9th, 10th and 11th rounds and you will see a big difference.
                Last edited by big_james10; 05-18-2014, 03:46 PM.

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                • #58
                  Atleast jmm use peds to entertain the people and he is a warrior in the ring while floyd mayweather jr. with peds is still running and so boring to watch in the ring.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by FeFist View Post
                    Yeah, make money an even greater factor in competition.

                    Legalising performance enhancing drugs would ruin the sport. Strength and conditioning coaches would demand more money, as boxer's would bid for the best in the business. You'd create a sporting environment where individuals under a smaller promotional company, would not be able to physically compete would those blessed with an easier path.
                    Money is already huge and making that payday is a huge incentive to cheat in the first place. The tests will always be behind the drugs, so it's an issue that can never be competely controlled. And the rest of your post doesnt address anything that isnt already happening. Fighters already seek the best trainers, coaches and promoters and those who can't obtain them are at a disadvantage. Using phrases such as " ruin the sport" and "create an environment" seem silly when you only go on to explain the exact way that boxing is run now.

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                    • #60
                      Dinamita!!!


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