Max Kellerman calls Juan Manuel Marquez after Alavarado fight "Su****ious"

[Divine Hammer]

Thats why Arum wants the fifth fight in Macua,,, very lax testing, and manny and jmm can both come in juiced to the gills looking like bodybuilders, and they will give us a great fight once again...

JMM that fought alvarado, i think beats the hell out of manny again

if the fight happens i imagine there would be extra testing with VADA. pac did VADA testing for his fight with rios in macau. so i assume pac will do the same for his fight with marquez. it would be very foolish of pac not to bring in VADA testing considering how dangerous marquez has been looking.

[MDPopescu]

The incentive to cheat is tens of millions of dollars. These guys are repeatedly getting their faces punched in of course they want to get paid for their troubles. Brain injury is going to be a problem whether PEDs are legal or not, so I'd imagine they want to make some money during their careers to help pay for treatment later on.

OK, ok... Don't explain the obvious...
... But why keep all these in the dark? There's no use -- nobody believes in fairy tales related to this sport...

[lefthook2daliva]

HBO has never been high on Marquez since his fourth fight with Manny. They got even worse after Manny got KO. Any HBO/Showtime analyst opinions I take with a grain of salt since they always protect their cash cows.

Thank you.

And no I don't agree that Marquez looks faster than he did in say...JMM vs Pac 1 or vs Medina for example. To me he looks slower than he did then. He's older. Go figure.

Stronger? Well he's put on weight and been working out and moved from drinking his own piss as part of his nutritional regimen to a more modern one designed to add muscles. Can a 40 year old guy add muscles without steroids?I think yeah.

So he follows Manny up to 140+ and starts working with a famous nutritionist with a shady background now claiming to be reformed. Has the nutritionist reformed? Maybe yes maybe no. Maybe he's making **** that is ahead of the regulation curve. It does seem to me that a dude w/a checkered past that gets another shot at a high profile gig would think twice about actually crossing the line.

Nobody knows. It's all speculation til' somebody gets caught and very little of the speculation is objective. Just about all of it is agenda driven. So how shady is the speculation?

Pretty shady. All of a sudden the peanut galley is full of experts.

Funny how all the experts are selective about the subject of their hand wringing, earnest, careful and thoughtful analysis.

Yeah.

[yoz]

People seem surprised. He's likely been 'on something' for a while now.

[Undisput3d]

Alvarados been taking too much damage, from Prescott,Rios and Provo.You clowns really believe Alvarado hasn't been affected by the damage he's received in any of those fights??? Mayweather is 37 and still looks fresh. Conte and Ward, donaire and Conte......Wheres the *****ing about ward being involved with Conte or Floyd being linked his very good friend who owned testosterone clinics in vegas same fella whom he gives tickets to his fights??? You guys ***** when it fits your agenda

[Dr Rumack]

As for testing, increasing testing before a fight really wouldn't solve the problem since most fighters do their cycles outside of training camp. The only way to get rid of it is 24/7 365 testing, but that is unrealistic except for a handful of fighters.

I think you could create a standard whereby a fighter who receives a purse over a certain threshold - say a seven figure purse - must submit to actual Olympic level drug testing for the following 12-13 months.

If VADA can run testing for a fight for $5-10k then annual testing is feasible for guys with million dollar purses. It would be a good start.

[FeFist]

Where was this su****ion when Pacquiao refused random drug testing? It's all fun and games when he's beating people to a bloody pulp, and knocking them out cold, but when it happens to him people cry, ''We needs stronger testing''.

[Gods We Faked]

OK, ok... Don't explain the obvious...
... But why keep all these in the dark? There's no use -- nobody believes in fairy tales related to this sport...

It would be impossible for me to answer your question without having to state the obvious. The only people who are in a position to discuss the issue openly are fans and most fans think drugs are bad.

[JaguaresMx]

HBO didn't say one word when PAC was dominating huge men. Not one. Never acknowledged the su****ions.

PAC gets KOd and Lampard becomes steroid crusader. He cried for gods sake.

So no, not buying HBO blatant bias.

[big_james10]

It's clear that Juan is on something. Too many red flags to ignore

Name those red flags. I can think of several: increase in head size; increased power as he moves up in weight; drinking su****ious drinks that his trainer doesn't know about; refusal to take random drug tests. Which ones are you referring to?