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Max Kellerman calls Juan Manuel Marquez after Alavarado fight "Su****ious"

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  • #21
    I kind of put Barry Bonds and Juan Manuel Marquez in the same kind of category. Barry Bonds was a great player before steroids. Juan Manuel Marquez was a great fighter before steroids. They both saw their opposition blatantly cheating, and making millions more than them. McGuire and Sosa were no where near as good as Bonds, but they were roiding up and making millions the illegal way. Pacman was also roiding up and making millions while Marquez WAS at the time, doing it the right way. I also find it hilarious that Roach was complaining after Pac got knocked out cold. Before that, Pac and Roach said "It's the commissions job, let the commission do their job". Pac got what I like to call KARMA when he got knocked out by a roided up Marquez.

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    • #22
      Max was way more interesting there than he ever is when he speaks on HBO. I think he's right about Provodnikov breaking Alvarado. Even allowing for the class of Juan Manuel Marquez, he didn't look like the same man in there.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by markfrombrookly View Post
        I kind of put Barry Bonds and Juan Manuel Marquez in the same kind of category. Barry Bonds was a great player before steroids. Juan Manuel Marquez was a great fighter before steroids. They both saw their opposition blatantly cheating, and making millions more than them. McGuire and Sosa were no where near as good as Bonds, but they were roiding up and making millions the illegal way. Pacman was also roiding up and making millions while Marquez WAS at the time, doing it the right way. I also find it hilarious that Roach was complaining after Pac got knocked out cold. Before that, Pac and Roach said "It's the commissions job, let the commission do their job". Pac got what I like to call KARMA when he got knocked out by a roided up Marquez.
        Marquez is a great fighter no matter what. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you don't create a great fighter with drugs.

        Still cheating though.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Beercules View Post
          It's clear that Juan is on something. Too many red flags to ignore
          Back in the day a Boxer was wash up by age 34 take a look at Ali at age 37 he was shot but today we have Hopkins Maywaether Pacquaio Marquez The Klitchko brothers whats the deal here do they make better fried Chicken these days ? Everyone needs to stop playing ****** everyone boxing past age 34 is on Roids and HGH. Peoples training habits haven't improved so don't give me this bull crap cause the fighter of back in the day gave up 15 rounders some were hard fought and today we have a lot of these guys barley able to do 12 rounds even with Ariza Chino was a bit tired going into the 12 yet you had Duran Pryor Leonard Hagler ETC fighting 15 rounds like mad men. Salvador Sanchez was able to fight the 15th round like it was still the 1st round did he have steroid Pushers, like Conte Memo or Mayweather TRT Doctor did they Have Ariza No

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Luilun View Post
            Back in the day a Boxer was wash up by age 34 take a look at Ali at age 37 he was shot but today we have Hopkins Maywaether Pacquaio Marquez The Klitchko brothers whats the deal here do they make better fried Chicken these days ? Everyone needs to stop playing ****** everyone boxing past age 34 is on Roids and HGH. Peoples training habits haven't improved so don't give me this bull crap cause the fighter of back in the day gave up 15 rounders some were hard fought and today we have a lot of these guys barley able to do 12 rounds even with Ariza Chino was a bit tired going into the 12 yet you had Duran Pryor Leonard Hagler ETC fighting 15 rounds like mad men. Salvador Sanchez was able to fight the 15th round like it was still the 1st round did he have steroid Pushers, like Conte Memo or Mayweather TRT Doctor did they Have Ariza No

            The reason guys like Ali were washed up were because they fought better competition, more rounds (15), and fought way more frequently then the boxers of today. Also, nutrition is way more prevalent today than it was back then. I'm not saying that SOME of the boxers are not doing it the illegal way, but some are blessed to be in a totally different era.

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            • #26
              In all fairness they gave Marquez a piss test,but he drank the sample before they could analyze it

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              • #27
                Originally posted by ManUtd626 View Post
                HBO has never been high on Marquez since his fourth fight with Manny. They got even worse after Manny got KO. Any HBO/Showtime analyst opinions I take with a grain of salt since they always protect their cash cows.
                This lampley was about ready to hang Juan after the ko. Alvarado just isn't on his level. Juan go beat by a very good Bradley but he destroys sorry ass mike and he's back on the radar

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                • #28
                  Everybody at the elite level in this sport is suspect, including Mayweather, Pacquiao, Ward, Donaire, Bradley, and Marquez.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                    It's clear that Juan is on something. Too many red flags to ignore
                    He may very well be but who cares, especially when we see how far in legacy and money it has brought Pacquiao.

                    Just like baseball roiders...the ends justifies the means. Money, contracts,knockouts, division conquering, home runs, packed stadiums, packed arenas....makes everyone turn and look the other way.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
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                      As about "su****ions" regarding PEDs: I don't know how many top guys still take year long testing right now...
                      ... A thread regarding the "anti-roids crusade' just disappeared from this site...

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