Max Kellerman calls Juan Manuel Marquez after Alavarado fight "Su****ious"

[fighter86]

I think roach is going to have to make wise decision about this fight because another KO its over for ever. And I think JMM can do it again ,even in Pac last fight he still over extend ,missing at all cost. JMM will make him pay ,it might not be another fight.

[humanpunchingbg]

anyone with eyes and a brain can see that marquez, since hooking up with a steroid chemist, has gotten much stronger, faster, and more bulkier than he ever has...........not to mention the symptoms of steroid acne all over his body....the guy has hit his 2nd prime....he even gleefully talks about feeling like a 20 year old again.......absolutely sickening......

but i can't expect biased and nationalistic mexican/marquez fans to accept the truth that marquez is one of the most su****ious athletes out there right now.....and more likely than not is roiding at this late stage of his career

so marquez isn't looking faster and stronger and bulkier than he ever has before at age 40? marquez isn't connected with a shady steroid chemist?? he doesn't show signs of steroid acne all over his body? c'mon.........there is no bias here just ****ing truth....something u marquez fans seem to be scared of accepting

a guy at age 38-40 doesn't just getting stronger and faster and bigger than he ever has in just a short period of time without the help of steroids

Double post?

[Resilient]

I don't see why boxing fans aren't clamoring for PED legalization. The majority of boxing discussions turn to fantasy fights that are impossible to make, if PEDs allow generations of fighters to overlap it equals more great fights for fans. I'm all for the legalization of PEDs and I'm against unfairly accusing fighters of cheating, but if any fighter has ever been su****ious its Marquez. A new and improved physique and increased punching power while maintaining his speed, activity level and ability to throw combinations at 40 is somewhat su****ious. If he is juiced and it makes for better fights though, I'd much rather it be available to every fighter.

Yeah who cares if those fighters end up vegetables or die in there.... it's all for the fans!

[Calabis]

Where was this su****ion when Pacquiao refused random drug testing? It's all fun and games when he's beating people to a bloody pulp, and knocking them out cold, but when it happens to him people cry, ''We needs stronger testing''.

Yeah..I dont see the "let the commission do their jobs" chant that was going on.

[Resilient]

Too true. They don't mention the fact that Manny has seemingly lost all his power since Ariza walked out of the wildcard, and how he carried that power in the first place. Dude was knocking future HOF fighters around like he was a heavyweight, now he can't even put a mark on Rios or Bradley?

Like Mayweather said, I been beating bigger men, but I'm not just walking through no damn fighters.

If you're going to suspect JMM of juicing, then i'm sorry, but you have to have question marks over Manny. You simply cannot have it all your own way. If it's impossible for one fighter to gain/ carry power and knock out bigger fighters then it's impossible for all. Don't allow bias to apply to your favourite fighter.

Do I think JMM was juicing against Pac in fight 4? probably

Was Pac juicing against Cotto? probably

Rios did the Clottey and has an iron chin, Bradley has never been stopped and has an iron chin, he was hurt in that fight btw.

[Resilient]

[Joe Grizzley]

Nobody cares Heredia has a degree in Kinesiology (Excercise Science) from Texas A&M which is a fuc.king good school.

JMM knocks out Pac and all of a sudden he's cheating. Alvarado is part of a sub-par group of modern day athletes that flat out suck. Put Alvarado against 140 pounders from 10+ years back and he's a 25-13 record fighter.

JMM's era is better than today's era, FACTS.

Imagine Alvarado against a prime Hatton. Hatton would flatten the **** out of Alvarado.

Lets se Alvarado against top 140 pounder of today thats not Top Rank billing and see how quick he gets stomped.

As it is Alvarado got ruined by an FNF star in Provodnikov.

Alvarado is a bum.

Acne on a fighters chest doesn't mean **** and considering its the first time JMM has had any acne on him at all doesn't consitute him cheating. If he had zingo's on his back only since working with Heredia and for every single fight, then maybe speculation might hold some water.

Kellerman is an idiot. He needs to know today's fighters ain't **** comp[ared to fighters from the 90's and 80's. Wake the fuc.k up already and quit being ******.

[Gods We Faked]

Yeah who cares if those fighters end up vegetables or die in there.... it's all for the fans!

Chronic traumatic brain injury (CTBI) associated with boxing occurs in approximately 20% of professional boxers.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/410861

Not you if you're paying money to encourage grown men to repeatedly punch each other in the head. It's not a nice sport and you're encouraging brutality by supporting it, pretending that cheering them on as they beat on each other isn't a selfish act doesn't make it any less damaging for the fighters. I can also think of just as many ways PEDs could prevent injury as I can reasons they would cause it.

[Undisput3d]

Nobody cares Heredia has a degree in Kinesiology (Excercise Science) from Texas A&M which is a fuc.king good school.

JMM knocks out Pac and all of a sudden he's cheating. Alvarado is part of a sub-par group of modern day athletes that flat out suck. Put Alvarado against 140 pounders from 10+ years back and he's a 25-13 record fighter.

JMM's era is better than today's era, FACTS.

Imagine Alvarado against a prime Hatton. Hatton would flatten the **** out of Alvarado.

Lets se Alvarado against top 140 pounder of today thats not Top Rank billing and see how quick he gets stomped.

As it is Alvarado got ruined by an FNF star in Provodnikov.

Alvarado is a bum.

Acne on a fighters chest doesn't mean **** and considering its the first time JMM has had any acne on him at all doesn't consitute him cheating. If he had zingo's on his back only since working with Heredia and for every single fight, then maybe speculation might hold some water.

Kellerman is an idiot. He needs to know today's fighters ain't **** comp[ared to fighters from the 90's and 80's. Wake the fuc.k up already and quit being ******.

I don't understand how nobodies get on boxing forums and call guys that put it all on the line "bums".

[Robbie Barrett]

Why are these threads always full of Pacquiao fans accusing JMM? They were all about "proof" when the spotlight was on Pacquiao's big head.