I'm tired of the "Marquez was taking a beating"...

[lefthook2daliva]

Very well said! Both guys were raking each other through HELL. If someone wants to pretend that the fight was a walk in the park for Marquez, or that Marquez was not taking a beating, well then they are entitled to their own delusion. It was a war that took something out of both guys as all wars tend to do. Aging and wars chip away at fighters, but wars expedite aging....they are not superhuman, just seem that way sometimes.

Nice post.

I don't see much of this (the bolded).

What I see a lot of is that it was a walk in the park for Pacquiao and JMM got lucky (or the drug thing or both).

I find that to be delusional, classless (unlike the great Pacman himself) and bitter.

It was a war. They were kicking the **** out of each other. It ended how it ended. That is all.

[RubenSonny]

He was creating space to set up that punch. Just three seconds before he had fired a flurry at Pacquiao that backed Manny to the ropes. He knew Manny's reaction would be to fire right back and sure enough here comes Manny. You can see Marquez taking little half steps back trying to set up that right. Tired of hearing about a lucky punch from bitter little girls.

The 'beating' Pac was administering was why he got stretched. A lot of posters haven't worked this out yet.

[SD180sx]

Im a fan of both fighters and I do think that JMM was catching a beating just by looking at his face. But like some of yall said, that dont take anything away from the KO win.

[JDD1]

What's funny is the Pacfans are cool with Pac getting KTFO while the ones who lose sleep hates Pac so much and even discredits a fanbase and making it like saying JMM was taking a beating wasn't a fact before the great KO by Marquez.

Unbelievable.

Why is this even an argument?

Marquez was getting beat up BUT caught Pac with the perfect KO punch, great fight, great night, much respect to both fighters!

The problem I see here are the trolls and fake fans. Seriously, is there any real Pac or Marquez fans here that hate the other figher? I really doubt it. And if there's some, then I don't know why?

Filipinos and Mexcians get along, and enjoy their fighters' going at it. There's no bad blood, it's a sport, it's business. These guys fought 4 TIMES! They fucking sang karaoke together to promote their 4th fight for crying out loud.

The only people that makes a big deal about Pac getting KO'd are hardcore pachaters/flowmos. Especially these idiots that respond in the thread with a gif of Pac being KO'd. Any fans of both fighters KNOWS that Pac and Marquez will always be a great fight. Pac fans respect Marquez and vice versa. Only the idiots here who are not really fans of either guy are the ones who are starting trouble. I see Marquez fans with sigpics of Pac and vice versa. Unlike some Floyd fanatics who doesn't even have Pac in their list of top fighter in their sig, lol. What's worse is they're taking credit for the Marquez KO, which really is disrespectful to Marquez and his fans.

THe TS is not a floyd fan. Why are you guys making it out to be floyd fans as the ones who are promoting dissent? The reality is much of Manny's diehard fans call this a lucky punch or claim JMM was on PED's and still haven't gotten over his getting KTFO!

Its they who are creating the bad vibes and negativity. Why can't you guys, as reasonable pac fans, take the very worst of your brethern fans to task? Maybe you have in private messages or the pinoy lounge. If so, then I apologize .

Really though, stop blaming floyd fans for the garbage the very worst of Manny's fanbase perpetuates day in and day out.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Just saddens me that a chapter that closed so perfectly may reopen, I had Marquez winning the rematch, I had him comfortably winning the 3rd fight as well and the 4th fight sealed it all.

[JDD1]

Who says I'm blaming Floydfans? Where did I say that in my posts?

And TS is a Floyd fan who had a falling out and does not like Pacquiao a bit coz of Bob Arum.

You didn't reference them specifically hates Pac so much is almost always a reference to floyd fans. They are the only fans who are accussed of hating Pac. If this was not a refrence to just them, my bad!!

SO he isn't a floyd fan and has stated that in other threads. You even asked was he another name.

My point is this-the guys who create the bad vibes are the guys claiming Manny was winning, JMM was on roids .... etc etc. You KNOW these fans are Manny fans that just can't accept he got KTFO and lost fairly and squarely to a guy he was expected to KO.

I know you are not the NSB police so it isn't your job. It would be nice if you guys took them to task rather than pretend its floyd fans.

[JDD1]

If he's Bush then we go way back that's why.

The fact I don't single out a fanbase means there's more to it and shouldn't be a problem except for the affected crew. So if a particular fanbase gets butthurt coz of what I said is not a problem of mine.

OK. To bad blame is continually placed where it doesn't belong. the very worst of your own group is where the problem is.

Its not those that hate pac its those that love him too much.

[way2strong]

no need to start a debate over something that's clear as day.Marquez did his thing Pacman did his thing but got put to sleep

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[OK JIM!]

[QUOTE=Wild Apache;14554056]Let's get one thing straight. In Pacman/Marquez 4 it was the 1st time in the series where Marquez gave all Pacman fans what they asked for. He didn't box, he stood in front of Pacman and traded. That's what the **** happened. He traded with Pacman and steered him into one of the single, most deadly right hands ever landed.

"Marquez was taking a beating", does not apply. You begged for someone to stand and trade. Marquez did just that and the result was the only conclusive victory of the entire 4 fight series. Deal with

He was taking a beating. Not that it changes anything. Just shows how evenly matched and competitive they are. Marquez is not the first fighter to come back from a beating to score an impressive ko win.

[bojangles1987]

Just saddens me that a chapter that closed so perfectly may reopen, I had Marquez winning the rematch, I had him comfortably winning the 3rd fight as well and the 4th fight sealed it all.

I agree, maybe the 5th fight manages to be just as good, but what are the chances? The rivalry ended in the best way possible in the 4th fight. Let it be.