I'm tired of the "Marquez was taking a beating"...

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  • Bushbaby
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    #151
    Originally posted by Beercules
    For the record TS I posted a picture of Juan's nose after ktfo6 to a REGISTERED nurse and she said that s*it was broken.

    Errrrrr he didn't take a beating doe
    I'm the ts kid. Now please find where in any post I've ever posted where I said Marquez wasn't getting his share of blows. Thanks in advance for you're no answer. I suggest you go and re read what I said and stop imagining things.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #152
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Manny has natural abilities that can take him to the WW and do what he does. Manny has power but it's really his speed that does the trick. You look at the Oscar fight, Cotto fight, Hatton fight, even the Bradley fight ..... Manny's punches come from all angles and come quicker than the opponents.
      Power generated by speed in Manny's case .... but that is Manny. He did that even at the lower weights.

      Cotto said "he was too fast" ... he didn't say he was too powerful .....

      Like I said in the previous post, Manny has yet to KO anyone like Marquez did ..... he beat Oscar with 1000 punches .... and beat Cotto with lightning speedy hands .... then Floyd said it must be the PEDs


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      Stopped reading from the 1st line. So Pacman goes to 147, blows through bigger guys. Marquez comes to 147 knocked out this same guy, but only Marquez in your eyes can be suspected of peds.

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      • Beercules
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        #153
        Originally posted by Wild Apache
        I'm the ts kid. Now please find where in any post I've ever posted where I said Marquez wasn't getting his share of blows. Thanks in advance for you're no answer. I suggest you go and re read what I said and stop imagining things.
        Then what is the thread about sonny?

        If you go out and break someone's nose, what is that? Juan was taking a beating.

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        • Bushbaby
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          #154
          Originally posted by Beercules
          Then what is the thread about sonny?

          If you go out and break someone's nose, what is that? Juan was taking a beating.
          If you read the op, you'd know kid.

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          • solo20
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            #155
            Originally posted by Beercules
            His nose was broken you ****ing idiot the bridge of his nose was obviously broken.
            NO you dumb **** don't get all BUTHURT WITH ME THAT IS THE ANSWER JMM GAVE YOU IDIOT
            YOU GOT A PROBLEM TAKE IT WITH JMM NOT ME PUT IT ON VIDEO SO I CAN SEE JMM PUSH YOUR CRAP IN
            Last edited by solo20; 05-16-2014, 06:05 PM.

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            • ADP02
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              #156
              Originally posted by Wild Apache
              Stopped reading from the 1st line. So Pacman goes to 147, blows through bigger guys. Marquez comes to 147 knocked out this same guy, but only Marquez in your eyes can be suspected of peds.
              I guess that is your problem .... reading.

              Manny did the same at the lower weights. Used speed, angles and which in turn generated power. Often, the bigger they are the slower they are so Manny was able to take that advantage.

              As for being suspect, I already told you that anyone and everyone can be suspected. Even the less obvious ones who we later have been caught.

              Fight #1, #2, #3 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 0 times
              Fight ........... #4 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 2 times

              Heredia is a known cheater who admitted to cheating many many times and with many Olympic athletes where we only found out years later. He had admitted that he knows of 20 ways to mask from being detected. He is now Marquez's "conditioning coach". So the suspect ratio increased obviously. Anyone looking at this objectively would come to that conclusion.

              I like Marquez but hate that he picked Heredia. Always makes me question fight #4. It's too bad because that was my favorite fight between them.

              Again, Manny may have too but what I saw of him before and now is the same Manny. Even against Bradley, he still has the speed and power just losing a step which goes against what Floyd said. Floyd has indicated its due to being off the PEDs.

              I think people like Floyd have influenced you about Manny but after all these roadblocks, I would think you would be smarter than that!

              but I better stop because you don't read past the first line.


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              Last edited by ADP02; 05-16-2014, 07:01 PM.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #157
                Originally posted by ADP02
                I guess that is your problem .... reading.

                Manny did the same at the lower weights. Used speed, angles and which in turn generated power. Often, the bigger they are the slower they are so Manny was able to take that advantage.

                As for being suspect, I already told you that anyone and everyone can be suspected. Even the less obvious ones who we later have been caught.

                Fight #1, #2, #3 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 0 times
                Fight ........... #4 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 2 times

                Heredia is a known cheater who admitted to cheating many many times and with many Olympic athletes where we only found out years later. He had admitted that he knows of 20 ways to mask from being detected. He is now Marquez's "conditioning coach". So the suspect ratio increased obviously. Anyone looking at this objectively would come to that conclusion.

                I like Marquez but hate that he picked Heredia. Always makes me question fight #4. It's too bad because that was my favorite fight between them.

                Again, Manny may have too but what I saw of him before and now is the same Manny. Even against Bradley, he still has the speed and power just losing a step which goes against what Floyd said. Floyd has indicated its due to being off the PEDs.

                I think people like Floyd have influenced you about Manny but after all these roadblocks, I would think you would be smarter than that!

                but I better stop because you don't read past the first line.


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                Pacman is the same Pacman huh. yet he couldn't put Bradley down in 2 fights, even though lesser fighters have on multiple occasions?? But again, Pacman put Marquez down in 2 fights. However both fights at welterweight he couldn't do it. But that's the same guy as the one who blasted through welterweight and put Marques down at lightweight and below?? I don't buy it.

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                • ADP02
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Wild Apache
                  Pacman is the same Pacman huh. yet he couldn't put Bradley down in 2 fights, even though lesser fighters have on multiple occasions?? But again, Pacman put Marquez down in 2 fights. However both fights at welterweight he couldn't do it. But that's the same guy as the one who blasted through welterweight and put Marques down at lightweight and below?? I don't buy it.
                  Bradley was not looking to good in some of those rounds so Manny's punches did affect him. Manny's punches did hurt Marquez and so on.

                  Manny is not a big puncher at WW. Again, it's his speed. Even when he was younger at WW (Oscar/Cotto) there was no KO. That is why he has not KOed anyone at WW. Plus the fact that most respect him once they feel that his punches are harder than expected. So they fight more defensively.

                  With age and being at WW, it will get harder for Manny to KO his opponents. Can it happen? Yes but the probability is lower when you take everything into account.

                  BTW: Manny vs Marquez ... there was one knock down. You said that Manny couldn't knock Marquez down at WW. Marquez also looked very shaken up and heavy on his legs .....

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                  • Holywarrior
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    I guess that is your problem .... reading.

                    Manny did the same at the lower weights. Used speed, angles and which in turn generated power. Often, the bigger they are the slower they are so Manny was able to take that advantage.

                    As for being suspect, I already told you that anyone and everyone can be suspected. Even the less obvious ones who we later have been caught.

                    Fight #1, #2, #3 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 0 times
                    Fight ........... #4 - Marquez knocked down Manny = 2 times

                    Heredia is a known cheater who admitted to cheating many many times and with many Olympic athletes where we only found out years later. He had admitted that he knows of 20 ways to mask from being detected. He is now Marquez's "conditioning coach". So the suspect ratio increased obviously. Anyone looking at this objectively would come to that conclusion.

                    I like Marquez but hate that he picked Heredia. Always makes me question fight #4. It's too bad because that was my favorite fight between them.

                    Again, Manny may have too but what I saw of him before and now is the same Manny. Even against Bradley, he still has the speed and power just losing a step which goes against what Floyd said. Floyd has indicated its due to being off the PEDs.

                    I think people like Floyd have influenced you about Manny but after all these roadblocks, I would think you would be smarter than that!

                    but I better stop because you don't read past the first line.


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                    You're embarrassing yourself.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Holywarrior
                      You're embarrassing yourself.
                      I know, you must have got all sensitive as soon as I said the word "Floyd" in a negative way.

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