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The WBC belt MUST be kept away from the Klitschkos
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostSo you're ok with people holding ****** because people in other parts of the world hold ****** right? You cant play both sides, its pretty simple, you either support it or you don't
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Originally posted by Hougigo View PostThe arguement here is that Klit is already recognized as the best... so let there be one belt floating around so it can be defended can feel like a HW champion.
Let Stiverne keep the belt, and we see good heavyweight title fights. Take it off him and the division dies again.
I'm a boxing fans, I want the best HW contenders to fight the best. That's not going to happen if Wlad takes the belt and the money out of the game and into his backyard to fight the Leapais of the world.Last edited by Weebler I; 05-12-2014, 01:10 PM.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostSlavery is wrong. But if black people were getting away with holding white ****** then white people would be in their right to hold black ******. Some form of justice/retribution is better than none.Last edited by Russian Crushin; 05-12-2014, 01:12 PM.
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Originally posted by Black Barty View PostIt's not that simple. Everyone knows what has been going on in the HW division in the last couple of years. Contenders (with few exceptions) have been fighting everyone but each other, padding their records and waiting for Wlad to look their way. Now that there is a belt involved, maybe they will actually start fighting each other, and we will get to see some decent, competitive HW fights.
I'm not saying Wlad should NEVER be allowed to unify. BUT it will be better for the division if he doesn't annex that belt RIGHT AWAY. Plus he has a mandatory challenger that has already waited for almost a year.
Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostStiverne isn't from the U.S. (although he is living in Vegas I believe) but he does qualify as being from the Americas.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View Postthat's not the argument, the argument is there is no money in the HW division because the titles are all in the hands of one guy who defends against the likes of Pianeta and Leapai while others are scared to fight each other for fear of missing out on a mandatory shot (see Pulev right now).
Let Stiverne keep the belt, and we see good heavyweight title fights. Take it off him and the division dies again.
I'm a boxing fans, I want the best HW contenders to fight the best. That's not going to happen if Wlad takes the belt and the money out of the game and into his backyard to fight the Leapais of the world.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View Postthat's not the argument, the argument is there is no money in the HW division because the titles are all in the hands of one guy who defends against the likes of Pianeta and Leapai while others are scared to fight each other for fear of missing out on a mandatory shot (see Pulev right now).
Let Stiverne keep the belt, and we see good heavyweight title fights. Take it off him and the division dies again.
I'm a boxing fans, I want the best HW contenders to fight the best. That's not going to happen if Wlad takes the belt and the money out of the game and into his backyard to fight the Leapais of the world.
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Originally posted by Black Barty View PostThe problem is that some guys here are religiously obsessed with unification and one champ per weight class, and they can't understand that it's not always the best thing for fans, fighters and boxing in general.
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostHow exactly does a belt make fights better? Arreloa -steverne could have fought without the belt, in fact they did. FIghters make the belt, not the other way around
You think the likes of Thompson, Haye and Fury etc would want to fight Bermane before? No, they were sitting on their hands hoping for Wlad to look beyond Pianeta and Leapai and towards their direction.
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Originally posted by Black Barty View PostThe problem is that some guys here are religiously obsessed with unification and one champ per weight class, and they can't understand that it's not always the best thing for fans, fighters and boxing in general.
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