The WBC belt MUST be kept away from the Klitschkos

[Black Barty]

You do know fighters can still fight without paper belts, right?

Yes, they can, but belts are powerful marketing tools, and it's not always healthy if one guy has them all. See Weebler's post or my previous posts in this thread.

[BattlingNelson]

that's not the argument, the argument is there is no money in the HW division because the titles are all in the hands of one guy who defends against the likes of Pianeta and Leapai while others are scared to fight each other for fear of missing out on a mandatory shot (see Pulev right now).

Let Stiverne keep the belt, and we see good heavyweight title fights. Take it off him and the division dies again.

I'm a boxing fans, I want the best HW contenders to fight the best. That's not going to happen if Wlad takes the belt and the money out of the game and into his backyard to fight the Leapais of the world.

Yep. The more titleholders you have, the more money there is to be made. That's standard alphabet logic. The socalled governing bodies get rich. The fans lose because of a multitude of Champions. 17 divisions with and more than 4 Champions per division is the potential.

Seriously weebler bro. You cannot be serious?

[Russian Crushin]

The fights actually get made. They're all lining up to fight Stiverne now. The belt and title changes everything, and brings money in.

You think the likes of Thompson, Haye and Fury etc would want to fight Bermane before? No, they were sitting on their hands hoping for Wlad to look beyond Pianeta and Leapai and towards their direction.

Bermains best win before Arreola was Austin and he barely won and looked like ****, nobody at all considered him a good fighter or top HW. Thompson just fought pulev without a belt, so its possible. Its the fighters faults that they're not fighting 1 another, the fights could be made.

[BattlingNelson]

People should read this post and actually take note if they want to see good heavyweight fights.

Only trouble is that the poster making the claim is speaking without knowing what he is talking about.

[Russian Crushin]

Yes, they can, but belts are powerful marketing tools, and it's not always healthy if one guy has them all. See Weebler's post or my previous posts in this thread.

Yea, its not healthy for those who fight nobodies in the hope of being called up for a vacant title shot. You know whats a better marketing tool? Beating the champ, taking all his belts and being the undisputed champ. Nope apparently being a fake champ is better

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

The Klits are not responsible for the sanctioning bodies being d*cks.

They are not responsible for the dearth of HW talent.

[Black Barty]

Yep. The more titleholders you have, the more money there is to be made. That's standard alphabet logic. The socalled governing bodies get rich. The fans lose because of a multitude of Champions. 17 divisions with and more than 4 Champions per division is the potential.

Seriously weebler bro. You cannot be serious?

Please elaborate. What exactly do the fans lose? I mean, ordinary fans, not obsessed purist hardcore fans?

[Black Barty]

Yea, its not healthy for those who fight nobodies in the hope of being called up for a vacant title shot. You know whats a better marketing tool? Beating the champ, taking all his belts and being the undisputed champ. Nope apparently being a fake champ is better

Ok, agree to disagree. Looks like I can't get my point across. Maybe because I'm not a native English speaker.

[Y0@NN]

Remember that ol good time when the WBA belts (super or regular) weren't "unified" ?
Haye defending his belt against the likes of Harrisson or Povetkin facing a geriatric Rahman brought so much excitment in the division...

[Weebler I]

Yep. The more titleholders you have, the more money there is to be made. That's standard alphabet logic. The socalled governing bodies get rich. The fans lose because of a multitude of Champions. 17 divisions with and more than 4 Champions per division is the potential.

No, the fans lose when the top heavyweights won't fight each other and they won't fight each other when there's no money to be made.

There's no money to be made because Wlad holds all the titles and he's picking guys like Mormeck, Pianeta, Wachand Leapai to defend against.

If Wlad fought the best consistently I wouldn't have so much of an issue with him holding all the belts but he doesn't, he fights twice a year and one of those bouts is usually against a rank outsider. How is that good for the division?

Yes, they can, but belts are powerful marketing tools, and it's not always healthy if one guy has them all. See Weebler's post or my previous posts in this thread.

They don't get that, they think fighters are going to take risks against each other for peanuts.

Bermains best win before Arreola was Austin and he barely won and looked like ****, nobody at all considered him a good fighter or top HW. Thompson just fought pulev without a belt, so its possible. Its the fighters faults that they're not fighting 1 another, the fights could be made.

That was for a mandatory spot - to get at the money (Klitschko). Wlad still hasn't fought him so Pulev is back to the position of most top HWs - fighting nobodies so as not to sacrifice a rankings spot.

If Stiverne isn't good enough then someone will take it off him, be it a Pulev, Fury, Jennings whoever but at least we'll get to see some fights.