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  • #11
    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
    it's amazing how you think Floyd won some wide decision.

    Delusional, really.
    Stop being a sucker

    If you actually watch the fight you will always see it in favor of Mayweather, if you PAY ATTENTION, you will see it wide.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Shambrolic View Post
      Stop being a sucker

      If you actually watch the fight you will always see it in favor of Mayweather, if you PAY ATTENTION, you will see it wide.
      Floyd didn't win a wide decision. 115-113 or 114-114.

      Your now one of like 2 or 3 people in NSB who thinks Floyd won some wide decision. What does that tell you?

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      • #13
        Floyd eeked this out 115-113; anything wider than that is a score by someone who closed their eyes throughout, or regurgitates the same rhetoric Floyd uses. No, he didn't "give the fans what they wanted." He was moving fine. Maidana was just doing an excellent job of cutting off the ring and backing Mayweather into the ropes. He did great body work, and his awkward, looping right hand chops perfectly through Floyd's normally air-tight defense. It sliced across that small space between Floyd's left shoulder and right glove, whereas a conventional fighter normally hits one of the two harmlessly.

        Mayweather's face was the only one with marks on it after.

        Had Maidana stuck with the body blows, he may have won another round or two and gotten a draw or split decision from the judges.

        The second fight - if Floyd actually goes through with it - will likely be a boring contest. He'll ensure Maidana can't use the gloves he wants (again, citing bulls*hit about being the "A side"), and pick a ref who won't let Maidana crowd Floyd for more than a second against the ropes. Same thing happened to Ricky Hatton: literally the moment he'd get Floyd against the ropes, the ref would break it up.

        Mayweather is protecting both fighters by promising them money, and then rigging the fight so it's boring and at mid-range. No one can get really roughed up or hurt. That's also why he didn't fight Cotto 6-7 years ago, Margarito or Martinez ever, or fight Pacquiao between 2007-2010.
        Last edited by Brassangel; 05-08-2014, 12:35 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          First Canelo, and now Marquez... don't be so mad.
          2 people who got humiliated by him....... floydiots

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Fighting_Pride View Post
            maidana had effective aggression and bullied mayweather each and every round. mayweather's punches didn't make much of a dent. he was effective from midrange but once maidana took that away and pushed him to the ropes, all mayweather could do was cover up. defense alone can't win fights. maidana won this


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            Hmmn........

            "I saw a bout with more wrestling than boxing. I saw a draw or a win by Mayweather with a very small margin of two points," said Juan Manuel. "Maidana missed a lot of punches. Mayweather moved well from the waist, and the only good shots that were landed were the counters by Floyd when Maidana missed.

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            • #16
              So Marquez had it a 114-114 DRAW or a close 115-113 win for Mayweather, I think it's fair, I thought it was either a 115-113 win for Maidana or a 114-114 draw.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by f4314n68 View Post
                2 people who got humiliated by him....... floydiots
                Ummm, you mad?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                  it's amazing how you think Floyd won some wide decision.

                  Delusional, really.
                  They seem to think missing punches scores points.

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                  • #19
                    I agree with Marquez he's usually pretty objective in describing fights that he isn't involved in. Their was barely any telling punches landed throughout thanks in large part to Maidana's lack of accuracy and Mayweather's limited work rate,but out of the effective punches that did land Mayweather was the deliverer.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Brassangel View Post
                      Floyd eeked this out 115-113; anything wider than that is a score by someone who closed their eyes throughout, or regurgitates the same rhetoric Floyd uses. No, he didn't "give the fans what they wanted." He was moving fine. Maidana was just doing an excellent job of cutting off the ring and backing Mayweather into the ropes. He did great body work, and his awkward, looping right hand chops perfectly through Floyd's normally air-tight defense. It sliced across that small space between Floyd's left shoulder and right glove, whereas a conventional fighter normally hits one of the two harmlessly.

                      Mayweather's face was the only one with marks on it after.

                      Had Maidana stuck with the body blows, he may have won another round or two and gotten a draw or split decision from the judges.

                      The second fight - if Floyd actually goes through with it - will likely be a boring contest. He'll ensure Maidana can't use the gloves he wants (again, citing bulls*hit about being the "A side"), and pick a ref who won't let Maidana crowd Floyd for more than a second against the ropes. Same thing happened to Ricky Hatton: literally the moment he'd get Floyd against the ropes, the ref would break it up.

                      Mayweather is protecting both fighters by promising them money, and then rigging the fight so it's boring and at mid-range. No one can get really roughed up or hurt. That's also why he didn't fight Cotto 6-7 years ago, Margarito or Martinez ever, or fight Pacquiao between 2007-2010.
                      Im not discussing the outcome just want to rebuttal some of your points.

                      1) Maidana was not cutting off the ring as much as you claim. What Cotto does and did against Mayweather is cut off the ring, what Maidana did is bull rush Floyd into the ropes. Infact Maidana rarely cut off the ring.

                      2) Maidana did have some good body work but I think GREAT is a stretch being that the majority of his "body work" consisted of low blows, hip punches, and kidney shots.

                      3) Maidanas awkward chopping looping right hand slicing perfectly? C'mon, most of those landed behind Mayweathers head, which make them non scoring punches and dirty.

                      All in all Maidana made the fight gritty dirty and somewhat entertaining, did what he had to do, but to elude that he reached some level of perfection in that bout is pretty one sided. You see Maidanas low blows, hip and kidney punches as body work, his rabbit punching as the perfect punch against the philly shell, and your main concern in the next fight is Mayweather holding. OK.

                      I agree though that Hatton got a raw deal when he fought Mayweather especially since thats Hatton's style. But Maidana is not an inside fighter he is a pressure power puncher. And Weeks did allow Maidana to work the free hand, the problem was Maidana would throw to many illegal punches forcing Weeks to brake it. Really if Maidana kept it cleaner in those moments it would have been a closer fight.

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