who did JULIO CHAVEZ beat that was any good?

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  • wmute
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    #241
    Originally posted by dino
    taylor could not brawl with corrales or castillo like he use to like to do...camacho was not unbeatable and i think he would lose to corrales and castillo...also CORLEY is underrated
    I think taylor would have murdered corrales, I don't know about castillo, cos castillo is not as skilled as jc. but as we have seen castillo gave a hard time to floyd, so it would be close and a great fight imo.

    corley?

    bwahahahaha

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      #242
      Originally posted by Gunstar1
      Let me put a end to this thread! Chavez was a great fighter & no one saying he was not a great fighter. I'm not gonna say that Chavez wasn't great. But he did lose many of his big fights. Also he was beaten by guys like Laporte, Randell & Lockridge which I don't consider great fighters. It's a fact that he was awarded many gift, I think we can all admit that.

      Damn his little son got a gift just last week, like father & son
      I got the Laporte fight and no way did Chavez lose that fight. And never in a blue moon did he lose to Lockridge who didn't even look to hit Chavez hard by fear of angering Chavez. Randell got a faded Chavez,who still gave him hell in their first fight.

      So much hate towards a great fighter who beat many fan favorite fighters.

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        #243
        Originally posted by wmute
        I think taylor would have murdered corrales, I don't know about castillo, cos castillo is not as skilled as jc. but as we have seen castillo gave a hard time to floyd, so it would be close and a great fight imo.

        corley?

        bwahahahaha
        You can't really say that. I mean if Chico ever landed a big bomb on Taylor, he might of knocked Taylor out. Also Medrick taylor didn't have too much power. As for Castillo, I don't see Taylor even hurting Castillo. I personally think Castillo is the bigger & stronger version of Chavez with a little better chin. He sparred with Chavez & fights very similar to Chavez, but I consider Castillo be the better boxer. Castillo is a great counter puncher & he can be very tricky in some fights.

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          #244
          Originally posted by ferocity
          I got the Laporte fight and no way did Chavez lose that fight. And never in a blue moon did he lose to Lockridge who didn't even look to hit Chavez hard by fear of angering Chavez. Randell got a faded Chavez,who still gave him hell in their first fight.

          So much hate towards a great fighter who beat many fan favorite fighters.
          I don't hate Chavez, I'm just not going to be biased towards Chavez. It's a fact that many people from the press thought he lost those fights & I'm not the only one.

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            #245
            Originally posted by Gunstar1
            You can't really say that. I mean if Chico ever landed a big bomb on Taylor, he might of knocked Taylor out. Also Medrick taylor didn't have too much power. As for Castillo, I don't see Taylor even hurting Castillo. I personally think Castillo is the bigger & stronger version of Chavez with a little better chin. He sparred with Chavez & fights very similar to Chavez, but I consider Castillo be the better boxer. Castillo is a great counter puncher & he can be very tricky in some fights.
            If prime Chavez ever fought Castillo, Chavez would have killed Castillo.

            If it wasn't for the great sparring Castillo got sparring with Chavez no way does Castillo develope to the fighter he is now without being Chavez sparring partner.

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              #246
              Originally posted by ferocity
              If prime Chavez ever fought Castillo, Chavez would have killed Castillo.

              If it wasn't for the great sparring Castillo got sparring with Chavez no way does Castillo develope to the fighter he is now without being Chavez sparring partner.

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                #247
                Originally posted by Gunstar1
                You can't really say that. I mean if Chico ever landed a big bomb on Taylor, he might of knocked Taylor out. Also Medrick taylor didn't have too much power. As for Castillo, I don't see Taylor even hurting Castillo. I personally think Castillo is the bigger & stronger version of Chavez with a little better chin. He sparred with Chavez & fights very similar to Chavez, but I consider Castillo be the better boxer. Castillo is a great counter puncher & he can be very tricky in some fights.
                1) how do you think castillo has a better chin than chavez? that begin said I would think castillo-taylor would have been a great fight, the outcome being a closer fight on the scorecards that taylor-chavez should have been, but with far less damage on taylor

                2) taylor had a damn good chin, otherwise he would have been down long before in the chavez fight.

                If you have seen him fight before and after chavez-taylor1 you know that anything after that is not relevant to judge anything about taylor except for his heart.

                3) taylor handspeed plus him being the naturally bigger man, would have sealed corrales fate

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  1) how do you think castillo has a better chin than chavez? that begin said I would think castillo-taylor would have been a great fight, the outcome being a closer fight on the scorecards that taylor-chavez should have been, but with far less damage on taylor

                  2) taylor had a damn good chin, otherwise he would have been down long before in the chavez fight.

                  If you have seen him fight before and after chavez-taylor1 you know that anything after that is not relevant to judge anything about taylor except for his heart.

                  3) taylor handspeed plus him being the naturally bigger man, would have sealed corrales fate


                  taylor wasnt bigger then corrales..and if corrales landed some bombs..could get rid of taylor..and castillo could possibly do the same thing to taylor that chavez did..

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by wmute
                    1) how do you think castillo has a better chin than chavez? that begin said I would think castillo-taylor would have been a great fight, the outcome being a closer fight on the scorecards that taylor-chavez should have been, but with far less damage on taylor

                    2) taylor had a damn good chin, otherwise he would have been down long before in the chavez fight.

                    If you have seen him fight before and after chavez-taylor1 you know that anything after that is not relevant to judge anything about taylor except for his heart.

                    3) taylor handspeed plus him being the naturally bigger man, would have sealed corrales fate
                    Castillo has never been down, even Chico almost killed him in the first fight, the guy was still stnading. Also I said it was a little better.

                    Taylor like to mix it up & if he did that with Chico. I see an early KO win by Chico. I can't see Taylor handling Chico's power, yea I know Chico can get knockdown, but I don't see Taylor knocking Chico out, maybe a knockdown.

                    Fo the last time Taylor did not fight like his buddy Whiataker. 2 different styles.

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                    • wmute
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Gunstar1
                      Castillo has never been down, even Chico almost killed him in the first fight, the guy was still stnading. Also I said it was a little better.

                      Taylor like to mix it up & if he did that with Chico. I see an early KO win by Chico. I can't see Taylor handling Chico's power, yea I know Chico can get knockdown, but I don't see Taylor knocking Chico out, maybe a knockdown.

                      Fo the last time Taylor did not fight like his buddy Whiataker. 2 different styles.
                      corrales, like most fighters, might not carry their power in their 3rd weight class. (a few examples: roy jones, tommy hearns, roberto duran, erik morales)

                      considering corrales inexistent defense and taylor blazing handspeed, he would be taking a lot of puninshment from the opening bell and he would have little time to ko the faster, bigger, slicker meldrick taylor with ONE, TWO big punches... to stop with a couple of punches the guy who stood up to chavez for 12 rounds and two minutes.

                      and no taylor did not fight like whitaker, that's why whitaker beat chavez and taylor didn't.

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