Julio Cesar Chavez vs Floyd Mayweather

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  • oldgringo
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    #81
    Originally posted by boxing scribe
    The comparison to Taylor-Chavez is not as close as the comparison to Whitaker-Chavez when it comes to complete boxing skills. Mayweather has every bit the skill, speed and technical ability that Pernell had...who I think beat Chavez.

    When you add to this that Mayweather punches harder than Whitaker and is a better body puncher and inside fighter than Whitaker was, then I think Chavez would lose. The only guy I think that gives Mayweather something to really think about is Roberto Duran at welter.

    Pernell had intangibles that Mayweather does not have. Strongest legs on a fighter I've seen around his weight, better defensively, craftier in general...

    Don't skew the punching difference either. Whitaker could turn it on when he wanted to...just look at what he did to Hurtado when he needed to really step up his game.

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      #82
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Pernell had intangibles that Mayweather does not have. Strongest legs on a fighter I've seen around his weight, better defensively, craftier in general...

      Don't skew the punching difference either. Whitaker could turn it on when he wanted to...just look at what he did to Hurtado when he needed to really step up his game.
      The fact is, Chavez got a bloated record fighting bums. WHen its high time to get it on with elites, he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter.

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      • oldgringo
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        #83
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        The fact is, Chavez got a bloated record fighting bums. WHen its high time to get it on with elites, he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter.
        Pipe down son.

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        • JoartCC
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          #84
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          Pipe down son.
          Pipe down? How? Facts are facts. Chavez is just a paper champ. He got his wins against cabbie drivers and tow personnel.

          Against the elites, he got himself humiliated bad.

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          • oldgringo
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            #85
            Originally posted by JoartCC
            Pipe down? How? Facts are facts. Chavez is just a paper champ. He got his wins against cabbie drivers and tow personnel.

            Against the elites, he got himself humiliated bad.

            My god you're right...

            happy now?

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            • JoartCC
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              #86
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              My god you're right...

              happy now?
              It's not a matter of being happy or not. I'm not after that. The point is, people posting threads like this is ok and fine.

              But to go beyond the bounds of reason and claim a fake can beat an elite is simply ******. Facts are facts. Claiming a frog can KO a lion is simply illogical and all in all, ******.

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              • oldgringo
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                #87
                Originally posted by JoartCC
                It's not a matter of being happy or not. I'm not after that. The point is, people posting threads like this is ok and fine.

                But to go beyond the bounds of reason and claim a fake can beat an elite is simply ******. Facts are facts. Claiming a frog can KO a lion is simply illogical and all in all, ******.
                you slay me

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                • morancito
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                  #88
                  Absolutely no point in arguing with Joart, who is just an alias of Manny_P. The guy is dumb as dirt. Or 12. Or both.

                  Funny he brings about the strenght of schedule in a Chavez vs Floyd debate. Who the hell has Floyd beat? Castillo once (he at best got a draw against him the first time) and Corrales. Chavez? Rosario, Laporte, Lockridge (despite what Gusntar might say, he did beat both), Mayweather twice, Camacho, Taylor, Ramirez, just to name a few.

                  This dude's just an imbecile, plain and simple.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JoartCC
                    Claiming a frog can KO a lion is simply illogical and all in all, ******.
                    What if the frog was Paulie Malignaggi and the lion had a chin like Zab Judah?

                    What then?

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                    • LondonRingRules
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                      #90
                      ========Results are not what matters dude.==========

                      ** Heh, heh, anyone ever tell you that *you happens? Yup!

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