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The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko
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Originally posted by pigsfly View Postfirst of all...........holyfield is greater then lewis. don't put holyfield in the same category as your average heavyweight (he's obviously a great heavyweight & a freak of nature to do what he's done) both Klitschkos have very weak comp when compared to these 2 guys (vitali being the weakest) do you really think wlad would have As long as a career if he had holyfields schedule or lewis? boxing is not just about being in shape (theres a bunch of in shape guys who take beatings) being in shape is a part of it. it's also the level of comp that you're consistently fighting over and over again........that will break your body down. and if it doesn't. you're just a freak show & you're just one of the very greats. but you could never prove that fighting **** comp............
The Klitschko's are always in top shape... Lewis was not. Using the comp card for longevity in boxing is once again lame. It's a little bit of everything & like it or not both brothers are alltime great heavyweights & rightfully belong amongst the very best.
When you go undefeated for well over 10 yrs as both Klitschko's have with mostly belts around your waist for the majority of it... you're doing something no more than a handful of heavyweights have done.. respect that & save the competition bs for the other haters on this forum who refuse to acknowledge both brothers as amongst the very best heavies who've ever lived.
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Originally posted by KBRO View PostYou're all over the place. Being able to last longer in boxing is keeping in shape & the ability to not get hit as often. Obviously Holyfield did get hit a lot & this is a testament to his strong mental fortitude & ofcourse keeping in shape all year round.
The Klitschko's are always in top shape... Lewis was not. Using the comp card for longevity in boxing is once again lame. It's a little bit of everything & like it or not both brothers are alltime great heavyweights & rightfully belong amongst the very best.
When you go undefeated for well over 10 yrs as both Klitschko's have with mostly belts around your waist for the majority of it... you're doing something no more than a handful of heavyweights have done.. respect that & save the competition bs for the other haters on this forum who refuse to acknowledge both brothers as amongst the very best heavies who've ever lived.
i give up.................
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I wish ppl would stop talking about the Klitshcko brothers in equal terms.
Vitali is a top 20 atg.
Wlad is a cherry picking *******ual. Anyone who puts Wlad top 10 atg is ignoring the fact that he can't take a punch and would be obviously ko'd by Louis, Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis and many more atg heavies. Wlad is a great HW, but barely top 25 and frankly horrible to watch. He gets marked down heavily by me for his crap resume and opponent selection, marked down further for his overly cautious style, and further still for what he's done to HW boxing.
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All that is fine & dandy.... but as soon as his opponents can take his punch... you have no case.. You can have a glass jaw but if most of your opponents are scared to crack it because they will get cracked hard in return... then it's your advantage.
His power & skill protect his jaw from harm.. He doesn't tire anymore & that cost him two of his 3 defeats... so basically unless Corrie Sanders can come back from the dead.... there is no legit way to defeat a Klitschko as he's the ONLY one to ever legitimately defeat one without any asterisks.
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I see it more as his jab grab style coupled with his natural distance advantage that protects his jaw. Corrie Sanders had speed and power and wasnt afraid to trade and be hit to get off his own shots. That's all you need to have a good chance at beating Wlad.
Unfortunately David Haye possessed the first two qualities in abundance but crucially not the latter (at HW) due to his chin failing him vs mormeck at CW
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Originally posted by Holywarrior View PostThe fact that at 37 Lewis slapped up a guy like Vitali speaks volumes about his greatness. Who was the best fighter Wlad stopped beyond 35?Last edited by Boxing Goat; 05-23-2014, 07:14 PM.
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