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The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

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  • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
    he fought a young mercer, fought holyfield, bruno, tua, prime briggs, McCall, morrison, Ruddock, tony tucker. tyson & vitali.

    thats a tough set of guys (with such comp you are OLD at 37) if you have a weaker set of opponents you can last longer............tougher comp equals shorter career. weaker comp = longer career...........


    next...............
    Nope... staying in shape for every single fight & not getting hit as often equals a longer fighting shelf life.. Lewis isn't in a Klitschko's or Holyfield's league when it comes to using no excuses for being in shape & obviously Lewis got hit a lot including 160 times at the hands of Klitschko.... look at all Vitali's opponents that have been hit 160 times... they're all retired... visited a hospital or facing tomatoe cans just to further finances.

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    • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
      Archie Moore, George Foreman?
      gorge foreman is a top 5 heavyweight. he's much greater then lewis...........

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      • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
        gorge foreman is a top 5 heavyweight. he's much greater then lewis...........
        He had a long hard career. Same with Moore, Holyfield, Hopkins etc. There's a lot of examples as to why your analogy doesn't work.

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        • Originally posted by KBRO View Post
          Nope... staying in shape for every single fight & not getting hit as often equals a longer fighting shelf life.. Lewis isn't in a Klitschko's or Holyfield's league when it comes to using no excuses for being in shape & obviously Lewis got hit a lot including 160 times at the hands of Klitschko.... look at all Vitali's opponents that have been hit 160 times... they're all retired... visited a hospital or facing tomatoe cans just to further finances.
          first of all...........holyfield is greater then lewis. don't put holyfield in the same category as your average heavyweight (he's obviously a great heavyweight & a freak of nature to do what he's done) both Klitschkos have very weak comp when compared to these 2 guys (vitali being the weakest) do you really think wlad would have As long as a career if he had holyfields schedule or lewis? boxing is not just about being in shape (theres a bunch of in shape guys who take beatings) being in shape is a part of it. it's also the level of comp that you're consistently fighting over and over again........that will break your body down. and if it doesn't. you're just a freak show & you're just one of the very greats. but you could never prove that fighting **** comp............

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          • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            Archie Moore, George Foreman?
            Really? One top 15 atg and Big George? That's your barometer. You must not rate many guys at all.

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            • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              He had a long hard career. Same with Moore, Holyfield, Hopkins etc. There's a lot of examples as to why your analogy doesn't work.
              moore holyfield & hopkins are obviously freak shows (their exceptions) & their all around great fighters. you're taking the exception and trying to apply it to the rule. (hopkins fighting tough comp and then fighting on into his 50's is an exception) not everyone can do that.............most actually can't.

              now if lewis was fighting weaker guys I'm sure he would have been a hell of a lot better off & many fighters would have a much greater chance at lasting.

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              • Originally posted by KBRO View Post
                when one beats long term heavyweight title holders such as Byrd & Lewis to the tune of 12 rds to 3... it's safe to say he will hold his OWN against anyone..
                Boy that would be significant if boxing didn't have such a thing as a stoppage.

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                • Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
                  moore holyfield & hopkins are obviously freak shows (their exceptions) & their all around great fighters. you're taking the exception and trying to apply it to the rule. (hopkins fighting tough comp and then fighting on into his 50's is an exception) not everyone can do that.............most actually can't.

                  now if lewis was fighting weaker guys I'm sure he would have been a hell of a lot better off & many fighters would have a much greater chance at lasting.
                  Lewis did fight some fairly weak guys like Rahman and McCall for instance.

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                  • Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                    Really? One top 15 atg and Big George? That's your barometer. You must not rate many guys at all.
                    Read the context of my post please.

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                    • Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                      Hes faced the 2nd best heavyweight 4 times in his career you moron.

                      Not ever comparable. One weight class of fighters to face.
                      LOL @ your personal message B*tching and whining to me


                      "Get out of here with your ***** and basketball pictures and go back to something you know about like robbing and selling drugs"

                      you're a insecure little termite......i wonder why you're so insecure & threatened...........?


                      ****ing forum nerd.............can't even be a man even on a internet forum. you have to send personal secret messages like a girl.


                      Last edited by Godsfly; 05-22-2014, 03:24 PM.

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