The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Boxing Goat]

I'm pretty sure you brought up the topic by highlighting it and making a rather dramatic point about it in your post.

Just on that highlighting thing...if you're going to make a large point of spelling something correctly, even going so far as to highlight the big impressive words that you made sure to spell correctly, and made sure everyone knew about it, it's not 'fat fingers' when you still **** it up.

And still..........

You guys carry on about irrelevant things to distract from the real topic.

Pitiful. However, if I were in your position, I would either do that or crawl back in my hole.

[Boxing Goat]

If Wlad beats Pulev-Stiverne/Wilder then he will go down as the #1 ATG HW (GOAT)

Once he clears his mandatory and takes WBC belt he is the GOAT. That's what the history book will say. There is nothing you can do about it, just enjoy greatness

You're right. No one's ever unified the hw titles before. Wise words.

Wow, I didn't think you would have ever agreed to the bolded part.

Why are we even arguing and giving red k for?

Good job man, hope we can be friends now.

P.S. You gave me green K a while back when we agreed on another subject.

[BennyST]

That would be a nice comeback if the only bums Ali faced were the ones when he first came back. But, sadly they weren't. Not even close.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are mandatories, etc. and I have no problem with them. I even like the occasional longshot getting his chance but Half of Ali's 2nd title reign fights were against woeful opposition. A lot worse than Wladimir's current reign. Then he lost to a 6-0 fighter at 36. A 6-0 fighter!

Can anyone even imagine the ridicule Wlad would suffer if he lost to a 6-0 fighter even now at 39?

What the hell are you even talking about? Ali?

I was talking about Joe Walcott.

Ali faced jerry quarry, oscar bonavena then Joe Frazier after his three year layoff. That's better than Vitalis entire career of wins.

It matters not who some stay busy fight opponents are when in between those stay busy fights, you fight HOFer after HOFer. The problem with Vitali is that the only two times he stopped having tune ups and fought a champion and his only HOFer, he quit and got stopped in six rounds.

As to Wladimir and his current reign being better than Ali's second reign, you consider Alex Leapai, Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach, and Povetsky to be better than George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, and Ron Lyle?

Well then, I see. My brain has just stopped working from trying to understand the incomprehension here. I'm literally stumped.

[Rousseau]

What the hell are you even talking about? Ali?

I was talking about Joe Walcott.

Ali faced jerry quarry, oscar bonavena then Joe Frazier after his three year layoff. That's better than Vitalis entire career of wins.

It matters not who some stay busy fight opponents are when in between those stay busy fights, you fight HOFer after HOFer. The problem with Vitali is that the only two times he stopped having tune ups and fought a champion and his only HOFer, he quit and got stopped in six rounds.

As to Wladimir and his current reign being better than Ali's second reign, you consider Alex Leapai, Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach, and Povetsky to be better than George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, and Ron Lyle?

Well then, I see. My brain has just stopped working from trying to understand the incomprehension here. I'm literally stumped.

Keep going bum poster

drink some more street wine you be flyin bro.

[Boxing Goat]

What the hell are you even talking about? Ali?

I was talking about Joe Walcott.

Ali faced jerry quarry, oscar bonavena then Joe Frazier after his three year layoff. That's better than Vitalis entire career of wins.

It matters not who some stay busy fight opponents are when in between those stay busy fights, you fight HOFer after HOFer. The problem with Vitali is that the only two times he stopped having tune ups and fought a champion and his only HOFer, he quit and got stopped in six rounds.

As to Wladimir and his current reign being better than Ali's second reign, you consider Alex Leapai, Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach, and Povetsky to be better than George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, and Ron Lyle?

Well then, I see. My brain has just stopped working from trying to understand the incomprehension here. I'm literally stumped.

Lol at the bolded part!!!!!!!!!!! Rock Quarry and Buenovista as good wins!!!!!!!

Vitali took longer off and came back and destroyed the reigning champion at the time without a comeback tuneup fight.

Keep me laughing.

[crold1]

What the hell are you even talking about? Ali?

I was talking about Joe Walcott.

Ali faced jerry quarry, oscar bonavena then Joe Frazier after his three year layoff. That's better than Vitalis entire career of wins.

It matters not who some stay busy fight opponents are when in between those stay busy fights, you fight HOFer after HOFer. The problem with Vitali is that the only two times he stopped having tune ups and fought a champion and his only HOFer, he quit and got stopped in six rounds.

As to Wladimir and his current reign being better than Ali's second reign, you consider Alex Leapai, Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach, and Povetsky to be better than George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, and Ron Lyle?

Well then, I see. My brain has just stopped working from trying to understand the incomprehension here. I'm literally stumped.

To be fair, he lost Norton III. That d ******.

And how can you compare Quarry, Bonavena, and losing arguably the greatest Heavy fight ever to Frazier to a career whose best wins were Peter, Adamek, and Sanders.

Oh wait.

[BennyST]

Lol at the bolded part!!!!!!!!!!! Rock Quarry and Buenovista as good wins!!!!!!!

Vitali took longer off and came back and destroyed the reigning champion at the time without a comeback tuneup fight.

Keep me laughing.

The reigning champion of the time... Who? Sam Peter?

You got me. Sam Peter was an epic win. ATG stuff. The skill Peter showed in losing to...sorry, 'winning' against obese former middleweight champ turned heavyweight Toney was superb. His rabbit punching technique is second to none.

Jerry Quarry's wins over HOFer Floyd Patterson, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Buster Mathis, Mac Foster...that just doesn't compare to 'beating' obese Toney and Maskaev.

[crold1]

The reigning champion of the time... Who? Sam Peter?

You got me. Sam Peter was an epic win. ATG stuff. The skill Peter showed in losing to...sorry, 'winning' against obese former middleweight champ turned heavyweight Toney was superb. His rabbit punching technique is second to none.

Jerry Quarry's wins over HOFer Floyd Patterson, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Buster Mathis, Mac Foster...that just doesn't compare to 'beating' obese Toney and Maskaev.

Peter was just a beltholder who had the BC after losing to Wlad in an BF elim. Still, it was a good win coming four years off the bench. I was impressed at the time and still consider it solid.

[BennyST]

To be fair, he lost Norton III. That d ******.

And how can you compare Quarry, Bonavena, and losing arguably the greatest Heavy fight ever to Frazier to a career whose best wins were Peter, Adamek, and Sanders.

Oh wait.

True, that was poor decision. Certainly concede that one.

Sanders is one of the greatest punchers of modern heavyweight history and was an incredible combination of speed, power and skill! Along with Wlad he also holds a win over....ummmm...errrr...Ross Purrity.

He lost by KO basically every time he stepped up, except for knocking Wlad out, but he was a modern ATG and one of the most underrated heavyweights of our time....the knockout losses to Rahman, Tubbs, Machimana, Vit etc......Well, I'm sure Sanders played golf better than those guys.

[Long jabber]

WLAD CHEATS

where is the head movement? amazing combinations? awesome handspeed? dazzling defensive skills? agility? he has an amzing jab and right hand



if he was exciting then people would like him more