The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[The Big Dunn]

to be honest.........if you think that wlads resume


Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


is greater then fraziers resume


bob foster, jerry quarry, George Chuvalo, muhammad ali (all 4 hall of famers) jimmy elis, Oscar Bonavena.

then you need to be mentally checked for a brain tumor...........


i don't know what to say anymore.

You are asking certain posters to have knowledge of the sport that pre dates their introduction to it.

[KillerRightHook]

Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.

Povetkin, same fighter who many thought was beaten by Huck, yet Wladimir put on an absolutely disgraceful performance, despite being superior to his opponent in almost every aspect, resorting to clinching excessively and leaning on his opponent.

Ibragimov was another underwhelming showing, a fighter who had been dropped like a sack of potatoes against the 'sound' journeyman Ray Austin a few fights prior and against Holyfield, showed himself to be a slow and sluggish fighter, with almost no lateral movement.

Byrd's best win at heavyweight was a 40 year old Holyfield, and Tua but Wladimir put on a clinic in what is considered possibly his best win.

Chagaev was a good win, nothing more, nothing less, given his best wins were Valuev and Ruiz, both of whom are painfully mediocre.

David Haye's best wins at heavyweight are Chisora, Ruiz and Valuev, with the Chisora victory being his most impressive to date. His performance against Wladimir was a poor spectacle, both unwilling to engage. His best win after Byrd IMO, albeit Haye's underwhelming heavyweight resume.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Resume and ability. Give me your top 10

I have to think about it deeply. Remember, I don't rank them if I haven't really seen footage of them.

[VG_Addict]

[QUOTE=Red Cyclone;14602348
David Haye, Tony Thompson (x2), Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Ray Mercer
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Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, and Ray Mercer are Wlad's best wins? Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. Mercer was shot, Byrd was a LHW, and I don't think I even need to explain why Brewster being one of Wlad's best wins is a joke.

Do you have to wear a helmet when you're around hard edges?

[Godsfly]

What's the criteria?

Frazier is one of the most exciting boxers at HW I've ever seen. However, we have to be realistic here, he beat Ali which was great and all but apart from that, his rating doesn't justify it.

so this resume


Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


is greater then this resume to you?


bob foster, jerry quarry, George Chuvalo, muhammad ali (all 4 hall of famers) jimmy elis, Oscar Bonavena.


holly **** you guys are completely clueless about the sport of boxng (just in general now) this is actually embarrassing.

[Mr.Fantastic]

so this resume


Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


is greater then this resume to you?


bob foster, jerry quarry, George Chuvalo, muhammad ali (all 4 hall of famers) jimmy elis, Oscar Bonavena.


holly **** you guys are completely clueless about the sport of boxng (just in general now) this is actually embarrassing.

Where did I say it was better? Learn to read....I said Frazier's ATG rating doesn't justify it with that.

[The Big Dunn]

Bit like how your Floyd slurpers didn't tune in to support your lover Jailweather?
Were they watching illegally?
Do they not want to support TBE?

****sexual references and name calling don't change the fact floyd had 2x as many people pay $75 to watch him fight Maidana than wlad had tune in to ESPN to watch him for free.

Of course this thread isn't about floyd so I can't understand why you would bring him up.

When have fans ever turned off a HWT title fight so early that you can remember?

[Holywarrior]

I have to think about it deeply. Remember, I don't rank them if I haven't really seen footage of them.

Then STFU if you haven't seen them. Let the adults talk.

[M Bison]

to be honest.........if you think that wlads resume


Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


is greater then fraziers resume


bob foster, jerry quarry, George Chuvalo, muhammad ali (all 4 hall of famers) jimmy elis, Oscar Bonavena.

then you need to be mentally checked for a brain tumor...........


i don't know what to say anymore.

WHEN did they get inducted into the HOF...

This HOF status is nothing more than the likes of someone getting Knighted or handed an OBE...
Look Jimmy Savile got the honour of meeting the queen and awarded knighthood or whatever it was and he turned out to be a *****

You buy too much into who is this and who is that...

Jerry Quarry HOF for what the poor guy took WAY to much punishment does that make someone a HOF for entertaining fights or ability?

Bob Foster who did he beat to merit HOF status?

George Chuvalo always lost when he stepped up to fight the best HOF?

Jimmy Ellis the same guy who Frazier lost to in the amateurs and had to step in to take HIS gold medal?
Who never really took the transition into the pro game aswell as Frazier did... Sure HOF status, god Cammaerelle needs to turn pro soon he will sure to be inducted if that is the case.

Then Bonavena the guy who Frazier was meant to beat but instead got a questionable decision in his favour to 'beat' Bonevena when in truth he never beat him...

Put it this way people get this HOF status later in their career just like I believe Quarry did, he got inducted then a few years later he dies...
Congratulation your blood and guts and life rewarded with something he probably didn't give a **** about but you do I guess bravo

[Mr.Fantastic]

Then STFU if you haven't seen them. Let the adults talk.

You're going to tell me, you've seen all the meaningful HW fights and remember them from start to present? Sure son.

A lot you motherfuckers just go to google and look at lists, then switch them around.

There can never really be an accurate list on greatness. I'll tell you one thing though, I don't see more than 10 boxers at HW being greater than Wlad.