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  • Holywarrior
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    #801
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    Hearing crickets...............


    Name 5 better pure boxers, all time in the heavyweight division.

    This should be exciting.
    Holmes
    Norton
    Ali
    Young
    Lewis

    Even Walcott showed better skills.

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #802
      Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
      Wlad is actually a very skilled heavyweight, especially for his size. Just because he has changed his style since 2004, doesn't negate what he has in his repertoire and what he CAN do and HAS done in the past. He still has great footwork, great jab and left hook, and pole of a right hand. In his prior offensive days, he exhibited a wider range of skills, although this negated the defense. Sure, he doesn't have much of an inside game, but he is an outside fighter...similar to Tyson fighting on the outside. You fight to the effectiveness of your physical dimensions.

      Wlad isn't an Ali in terms of pure skills, but he is still fairly high up there, and definitely near/at the top for the true big, big men.
      Best pure boxing HW of all time:

      1) Ali (consensus)

      2) Holmes

      3) Vitali or Lewis

      4) Wlad, Vitali, Lewis or Tunney (any order)

      5) Wlad, Vitali, Lewis or Tunney (any order)

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      • Weltschmerz
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        #803
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone
        but but but


        Tony Galento P4P best heavyweight would probably unify current heavyweight division
        Wladimir would struggle with Galento like Joe Louis did, no doubt

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        • King_
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          #804
          Wtf are you guys arguing about for 80 pages??

          Wlad is a top 3 ATG at the moment


          /thread


          Lol

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          • Boxing Goat
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            #805
            Originally posted by Holywarrior
            Holmes
            Norton
            Ali
            Young
            Lewis

            Even Walcott showed better skills.
            Norton and Young better than the Klitschko's!!! You're on crack rock.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #806
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Haha.

              You'll make people laugh at you for quoting that.

              In fact, I made a thread about this. I should bump it so you can see how idiotic everyone thinks you are.
              It would matter...............IF..............

              I could care any less for their opinions.

              Like Lennox Lewis, Vitali and Wlad will obtain their rightful spot in history several years after their retirements.

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #807
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Best chins of boxing - not in heavyweight terms you muppet.
                He never got knocked out at heavyweight either......


                Translation = no defense for his post.

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                  #808
                  To those saying that Foreman would sash Povetkin because the latter had a hard fight with Huck.

                  Foremand doesn't have the quarter of the speed that Huck has.

                  If Foreman and Povetkin were to fight, you should ask yourself : would Foremand be able to land at least 7-8 hard punches on Povetkin's head? I don't think so.
                  Povetkin is way too athletic for Foreman. Just look at Povetkin's footwork, balance and feints. This guy is clearly an elite boxer!

                  I am a Wladimir Klitschko supporter but I really believe that Povetkin can give it to him if he suddenly gets old/ doesn't apply the right strategy.

                  When it comes to the Charr-Povetkin fight, tell me I am crazy but I believe Povetkin would struggle more against Charr then Foreman

                  -------> Why do I believe in this controversial statement?

                  Well, Charr means PURE PRESSURE ( when he wants to put it) and a solid defence with his shell guard. To land flush on Charr you must throw 3-4 accurate punches. The only current boxers that would land clean on Charr in less thant 3 punches* would be Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye because of their very fine skills.

                  So there is clearly a danger that Povetkin gets tired in the second half of the fight if Charr puts pressure as he 's used to do it masterfully.

                  Still Povetkin is 60-40 favorite to me though. Apart from his defence and stamina, he outclasses Charr in every department ( speed , reflexes and a little more power). Povetkin fights very well on his frontfoot, but will he be able to fight on his frontfoot on fight night? That is, to me, the biggest question that we should ask ourselves for this fight!
                  Last edited by Dr.Eisenfaust; 05-28-2014, 10:30 AM. Reason: *in less than 3 punches

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #809
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    He never got knocked out at heavyweight either......


                    Translation = no defense for his post.
                    Did he ever face a big puncher at heavyweight?

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                    • Boxing Goat
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                      #810
                      Originally posted by Holywarrior


                      Peter going down against an absolute never was Jameel McCline
                      He's also a very big, heavy handed never was and also lost to Peter.

                      He also beat Shannon Briggs and knocked out Michael Grant in one round at one point. That was faster than Lennox Lewis.

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