The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #451
    Originally posted by ßringer
    First he demonstrates his lack of English comprehension, now he employs the "you don't get laid" routine.

    He's one google image search short of hitting a 'tard trifecta.

    Translation*

    Damn, the dude saw into my soul and pegged me straight up.

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    • King_
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      #452
      If Wlad beats Pulev-Stiverne/Wilder then he will go down as the #1 ATG HW (GOAT)

      Once he clears his mandatory and takes WBC belt he is the GOAT. That's what the history book will say. There is nothing you can do about it, just enjoy greatness


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        #453
        Originally posted by !! Anorak
        Marius Wach don't count for nothing in your books, huh?

        Demanding standards you have.
        How about #1 ranked Chris Byrd twice, #2 ranked Sam Peter, #2 ranked Ruslan Chagaev, #2 ranked David Haye and #2 ranked Povetkin?

        Do they count in the book? I guess it all depends on who's book doesn't it?

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          #454
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Can you imagine Wlad having fought a guy with a 11-15 record now? Much less lose to the guy? The repercussions of such a fight even taking place would be astronimical*.

          * The highlighted words are for the guy who thinks spelling means something on here.
          Hold on....are you comparing Wlad losing a fight now, as an active champion, in or close to his prime, to Jersey Joe Walcott losing a tune up fight (much like Wlad lost to club journeymen Ross Purrity) after a four year retirement?

          As to repercussions, if Wlad had retired from boxing for four years, I don't think there would be any repercussions whatsoever for taking some tune up fights with some journeymen. That's pretty standard.

          There would probably be some embarrassment if he lost one of those tune ups to a journeyman, much like when he lost to journeyman club fighter Ross Purrity, but sometimes you need those losses to journeymen, like Wlad lost to Purrity, to progress, as Wlad did after his loss to club fighter Purrity, at least until his next knock out loss as a prime champion, particularly if you're coming back from a four year lay off, which Wlad wasn't.

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            #455
            Originally posted by !! Anorak
            Yeah, you got me.

            The guy who's spent his career hugging cans is up there with the greats.

            I feel such a fool.
            At least you're man enough to admit it. Have a nice Gift.

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              #456
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              How about #1 ranked Chris Byrd twice, #2 ranked Sam Peter, #2 ranked Ruslan Chagaev, #2 ranked David Haye and #2 ranked Povetkin?

              Do they count in the book? I guess it all depends on who's book doesn't it?
              Well, if the book was "The Bumper Book of Shit Journeymen and Blown-Up Cruisers", then Wlad would have it covered, no doubt.

              Chris "hands of stone" Byrd, huh? Sam "speedy" Peter? Ruslan "competitive bout with Matt Skelton" Chagbollocks?

              How does the ATG master do it?

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                #457
                Originally posted by King-
                If Wlad beats Pulev-Stiverne/Wilder then he will go down as the #1 ATG HW (GOAT)

                Once he clears his mandatory and takes WBC belt he is the GOAT. That's what the history book will say. There is nothing you can do about it, just enjoy greatness


                You're right. No one's ever unified the hw titles before. Wise words.

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                  #458
                  Originally posted by BennyST
                  Hold on....are you comparing Wlad losing a fight now, as an active champion, in or close to his prime, to Jersey Joe Walcott losing a tune up fight (much like Wlad lost to club journeymen Ross Purrity) after a four year retirement?

                  As to repercussions, if Wlad had retired from boxing for four years, I don't think there would be any repercussions whatsoever for taking some tune up fights with some journeymen. That's pretty standard.

                  There would probably be some embarrassment if he lost one of those tune ups to a journeyman, much like when he lost to journeyman club fighter Ross Purrity, but sometimes you need those losses to journeymen, like Wlad lost to Purrity, to progress, as Wlad did after his loss to club fighter Purrity, at least until his next knock out loss as a prime champion, particularly if you're coming back from a four year lay off, which Wlad wasn't.
                  That would be a nice comeback if the only bums Ali faced were the ones when he first came back. But, sadly they weren't. Not even close.

                  Now, don't get me wrong, there are mandatories, etc. and I have no problem with them. I even like the occasional longshot getting his chance but Half of Ali's 2nd title reign fights were against woeful opposition. A lot worse than Wladimir's current reign. Then he lost to a 6-0 fighter at 36. A 6-0 fighter!

                  Can anyone even imagine the ridicule Wlad would suffer if he lost to a 6-0 fighter even now at 39?

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                    #459
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    It's called fat fingering. You know about that right. Stay on topic.

                    Wlad. ATG. Refresher.
                    I'm pretty sure you brought up the topic by highlighting it and making a rather dramatic point about it in your post.

                    Just on that highlighting thing...if you're going to make a large point of spelling something correctly, even going so far as to highlight the big impressive words that you made sure to spell correctly, and made sure everyone knew about it, it's not 'fat fingers' when you still **** it up.

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                      #460
                      Originally posted by !! Anorak
                      Well, if the book was "The Bumper Book of Shit Journeymen and Blown-Up Cruisers", then Wlad would have it covered, no doubt.

                      Chris "hands of stone" Byrd, huh? Sam "speedy" Peter? Ruslan "competitive bout with Matt Skelton" Chagbollocks?

                      How does the ATG master do it?
                      Just about any fighter can be dissected and scrutinized like that.

                      Muhammad "Zeus Fists" Ali and the ever present "Two Gunz" Joe Frazier were beasts of the squared circle.

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