Floyd doesn´t have THAT epic fight in his resume yet

[HWChampion]

Me and the poster i was replying to were talking about risk in the ring.....

Lol he stumped you mate, you had to come up with this dumb reply.

You have said it Larry why take risks that is the most cowardice thing I have heard in the boxing world.

Pipe down.

[-PBP-]

Smh I will just never understand boxing fans who think like this

Wait what? So if you have the chance to outbox a guy you would pull a Timothy Bradley and go full ****** instead just to create action?

[-PBP-]

Seriously? Hopkins 1 or Toney are his defining fights. Sweet Pea had Chavez (should have been a win), Nelson.

I understand where you are coming from, but they are bad examples.

Those weren't epic fights. they were schoolings against top fighters. Floyd has a resume full of those.

[radioraheem]

We cant penalize him for having to fight a certain way to win. What he will be penalized for is not taking dangerous fights. Go ahead and fighting GGG or Sergio or Pac in that certain way then. Not Ortiz, Guerrero and Maidana.

There are many other things he can and will be penalized for though. For not fighting as dangerous fighters as he possibly can he will be penalized for.
We wont penalize him for being boring and pot shotting to victory. But do it against guys people want him to fight. Not Ortiz, Guerrero, CW canelo and Maidana.
Why don't he think he can pot shot Pac, GGG, Sergio to victory? Why does he have to let Cotto fight Sergio? See the thread title is correct.

We aren't asking Floyd to take risks in the actual fight so he can get knocked out. The risk is in the choice of opponent. Fighting Ortiz, Guerrero and the guy who lost to Pacs sparring partner, Floyd will be penalized for.

You guys complain a lot, using double standards at will. Cotto is moving UP to fight Martinez. It's not being fought at 154 lbs. Secondly, the fight is on HBO, as Martinez is contractually obligated to them. Cotto is not though, he's a free agent. He can go between Showtime and HBO as he pleases.

The only fight you can legitimately criticize him for not making in recent years is Pacquaio. And even with that fight, you can't criticize Floyd, without also criticizing Team Pacquaio.

[-PBP-]

There are many other things he can and will be penalized for though. For not fighting as dangerous fighters as he possibly can he will be penalized for.
We wont penalize him for being boring and pot shotting to victory. But do it against guys people want him to fight. Not Ortiz, Guerrero, CW canelo and Maidana.
Why don't he think he can pot shot Pac, GGG, Sergio to victory? Why does he have to let Cotto fight Sergio? See the thread title is correct.

Cut the bull****. Cotto is facing Sergio because he looked like **** and arguably lost his last fight against Murray. I respect him for challenging himself but it is what it is. Sergio been calling him out for years.

And lol @ doing it against "guys people wanted him to fight". Everybody on earth wanted Floyd vs. Canelo. That's why its the most lucrative fight of all time.

[JuanARG20]

Cut the bull****. Cotto is facing Sergio because he looked like **** and arguably lost his last fight against Murray. I respect him for challenging himself but it is what it is. Sergio been calling him out for years.

And lol @ doing it against "guys people wanted him to fight". Everybody on earth wanted Floyd vs. Canelo. That's why its the most lucrative fight of all time.

yes...and it wasnt EPIC at all....BUT we can´t really blame Floyd for it..actually it was Canelo who decided to try to "outbox" mayweather instead of coming to fight like cotto did....

and that´s what I posted earlier... is it always mayweathers fault??

[sunny31]

I think I know what the TS means, and I agree from the point of view that he has not had to go deep into his tank and prevail. But I don't think Floyd, even if he was losing will be the type of fighter that will risk everything for a W, I think he proved that in Castillo I, a fight which could have gone either way, that Roger was worried Floyd was losing and he never really let it all hang out.

Since then though he has been just too good, and it isn't his fault. I would have loved to seen him fight Cotto sooner, Pacquiao, PWilliams, that would have been tremendous, even Margarito with the sheer volume of punches and pressure would have been an interesting challenge for him. But the guys he has fought, he has rarely been out of 2nd gear and that is a credit to him.

In terms of TBE, considering the above, from here on out he really has to do something extra special to be considered in the argument, I think he is in the argument based on pure talent, but in terms of achievements, to even break the top 10, a few things need to happen. First, Canelo Alvarez needs to go on and have a stellar career, and dominate the MW division after cleaning out 154. Second, Floyd needs to do something exceptional in the remaining 3 fights assuming he beats Maidana. I know his father, and uncles are against it, but he needs to win the Middleweight title outright, if GGG or Martinez unify he needs to beat that person in one of those fights.

If Lara beats Canelo, then he needs to beat Lara, and then the MW champ, something along those lines will ultimately get him in the top 10 and 'in the argument'.

[Pacquiao'd]

You guys hype up the common opponents between him and him for pac whhen floyd between on the upside whilst being champions.

If floyds resume isnt that impressive then what does that say about pac?

[Queen_Leia]

Cool, but don't claim you're the best ever if you're not willing to fight everyone to prove it.

Ditto for the guys at 175 claiming to be the best while Kovalev is waiting for a fight.

The fans know...

Better much every p4p list (even his haters) have Floyd as number 1. Floyd is a first ballot hall of famer.

The Cotto fight was career defining because of the back and forth IMO

[Holywarrior]

Dominating Corrales the way he did was epic. The Delahoya fight was huge as well. Are people new to boxing?