Schaefer gives Hoya the finger

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  • DoktorSleepless
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    #211
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Well there you go. What you suggest is possible.

    But it's also possible that Oscar is being emotional coming out of drug rehabilitation. Upon seeing how his company has gone on without him maybe he feels out of the loop and wants to exert some control again. Especially if this is something that has been building for a while.

    I don't see that as being an unreasonable guess.
    Do you trust a guy's judgement more when he's a drunk/druggie or while he's sober?

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      #212
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Well there you go. What you suggest is possible.

      But it's also possible that Oscar is being emotional coming out of drug rehabilitation. Upon seeing how his company has gone on without him maybe he feels out of the loop and wants to exert some control again. Especially if this is something that has been building for a while.

      I don't see that as being an unreasonable guess.
      Or maybe hes sick of his company going the route he said it wouldn't.

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        #213
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        Do you trust a guy's judgement more when he's a drunk/druggie or while he's sober?
        It depends how drunk and if he's trying to sell me something.

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          #214
          Originally posted by arraamis
          Speaking of which .... How does B-Hop get along with Arum?

          I don't recall him commenting too much on the topic, which is odd for B-Hop.
          I don't recall Hopkins ever really saying anything about Arum, but I do recall Arum saying a few things about Hopkins. I think the last time Golden Boy and Top Rank truly worked together was Hopkins vs Pavlik wasn't it? Can't remember.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #215
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
            Do you trust a guy's judgement more when he's a drunk/druggie or while he's sober?
            I'd be wary of trusting a ******* user at any time.

            Originally posted by Berry Picker
            Or maybe hes sick of his company going the route he said it wouldn't.
            That's very possible. It's Oscar's baby and he has every right to have it conform to his vision.

            That doesn't necessarily mean that the financials are bad though.

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            • Francis M.
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              #216
              Schaefer has worn out his welcome and has ruined GBP by leaving it easy pickings at the hands of Al Haymon.

              Might as well fire him and absorb the damage Richard has done. GBP has a lot of fighters willing to stay with more options on cross matching.

              Sure Floyd and Adonis won't like it but fighters like Garcia and matthyse will have big options besides getting that one pay day with Floyd.

              Ask the ghost how that's working out for him?

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                #217
                Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                Pretty much what everyone is saying is speculation. I'm not saying Golden Boy is suffering financially is a fact. But when "Hoya is a mad jelly hater" is more reasonable than "The company's profit margins may be thin," :
                I think it's more likely to be something other than those two scenarios. Lots of gray areas here. I doubt very much investors questioning the numbers means that they want the CEO out, it usually means they want to figure out what's wrong with the company's model and outlook.

                According to Schafer, the shareholders all have a say in what's done with profits. Of course every CEO says that but this is a private firm with few investors. A sacking of Schafer here would indicate much more issues than just financial problems.

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                • PureBoxingCEO
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                  #218
                  It's rare to hear that a president could fire a CEO

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                    #219
                    Great stuff by Oscar here. Oscar's all about the fans!


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                      #220
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      I think it's more likely to be something other than those two scenarios. Lots of gray areas here. I doubt very much investors questioning the numbers means that they want the CEO out, it usually means they want to figure out what's wrong with the company's model and outlook.

                      According to Schafer, the shareholders all have a say in what's done with profits. Of course every CEO says that but this is a private firm with few investors. A sacking of Schafer here would indicate much more issues than just financial problems.
                      Again....according to Schafer. Folks. The investors don't give a **** if oscar or **** are wearing fishnet or if they are ****ing each others wives or even hate each other. It's da benjamin. Investor is there to make $$$.

                      The companies finance is opaque. If the investors are getting excellent return, they could care less if either Schaefer or Oscar are snortin coke,

                      BOTTOMLINE: its da $$$$

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