40 million fair deal or a bad joke(debate)?

[HeroBando]

Ok then give me a link proving 27%, when you give me a link I will give you a link to the pdf for the Garcia lawsuit which is easy enough to find.


Arum makes money by any means necessary~ how you are a boxing fan that argues numbers and don't get that I have no ****ing clue.

Nice platitudes. Hope by now you understand the difference between Pac fighting on a TR card, and having his promoter get cut out. Dont let me catch you again trying to defend this shameful offer

[The Gambler1981]

Nice platitudes. Hope by now you understand the difference between Pac fighting on a TR card, and having his promoter get cut out. Dont let me catch you again trying to defend this shameful offer

I knew that difference and brought it up way earlier before we even started talking~

So you throw out a random number that comes from a guy you don't like and got bandied about by people whom you never agree with acting like that is fact.

I take this as you saw the PDF from the Garcia lawsuit but could find nothing to back up 27%.

It is a fair off, felt that way when it came out feel that way now nothing you have said changes that~ Manny even with your made up number would have made the best he has ever made, was he wrong to want more no but that is a solvable problem not an offensive offer that you don't try and make it work.

[HeroBando]

I knew that difference and brought it up way earlier before we even started talking~

So you throw out a random number that comes from a guy you don't like and got bandied about by people whom you never agree with acting like that is fact.

I take this as you saw the PDF from the Garcia lawsuit but could find nothing to back up 27%.

It is a fair off, felt that way when it came out feel that way now nothing you have said changes that~ Manny even with your made up number would have made the best he has ever made, was he wrong to want more no but that is a solvable problem not an offensive offer that you don't try and make it work.

I didnt look at any pdfs and HIGHLY doubt theres anything in there saying that a promoter is entitled to 10% max, unless this is Garcias personal feeling lol. Feel free to paste the relevant paragraph.

Getting a 12% raise (Over Bradley!!) for the biggest money fight of all time is shocking and a slap in the face. You cannot be that dense not to see this

[The Gambler1981]

I didnt look at any pdfs and HIGHLY doubt theres anything in there saying that a promoter is entitled to 10% max, unless this is Garcias personal feeling lol. Feel free to paste the relevant paragraph.

Getting a 12% raise (Over Bradley!!) for the biggest money fight of all time is shocking and a slap in the face. You cannot be that dense not to see this

So you are talking out of your ass based on people's words that you always argue with. WTF kind of nonsense talk is that.

Look it up it ain't hard to find.

A raise is a raise and 12% is 3 million dollars so even in that extreme case where Manny had to pay some outrageous amount he does better by a large amount. Plus that was just the starting point, if they actually worked on it maybe they could have done better for Manny as usually a first offer is never a best offer, why didn't they even try to negotiate?

Continue to play the victim Manny card it is amusing~

[smoothsmg]

I think at this current time 60/40 or 65/35 is more than fair. But back when they were negotiating it should have easily been 50/50 or 55/45. And Pacquiao should get 30-35% of the PPV money as well. If it were to be believed about the 200 million number, I think Floyd making 120-125 Mil total & Pacquiao making 75-80 Million is the most fair deal. 40 Million without any PPV $ is an absolute joke. Why should Floyd make around 4x as much, when his PPVs only draw maybe 15% more. And the Canelo fight only did as good as it did because Canelo has a huge fanbase, so Canelo deserves almost half the credit for that big number.

I know the numbers are really hypothetical, but lets say for instance the fight does gross 200 million. If Manny's highest payday is a little less than 30 million (28 million), and Floyds highest payday is 80 million, why is it that this board (in general) feels that Manny should get 3 times his highest payday while Floyd would not even get double his highest payday?

[HeroBando]

So you are talking out of your ass based on people's words that you always argue with. WTF kind of nonsense talk is that.

Look it up it ain't hard to find.

A raise is a raise and 12% is 3 million dollars so even in that extreme case where Manny had to pay some outrageous amount he does better by a large amount. Plus that was just the starting point, if they actually worked on it maybe they could have done better for Manny as usually a first offer is never a best offer, why didn't they even try to negotiate?

Continue to play the victim Manny card it is amusing~

Play victim lol. So why didnt Floyd take their counter offer of 50m? A raise is a raise. Perhaps they should have offered him 40m + $1, his then career high. A raise is a raise lol

You can just google Arum 27%, tons of links out there including Floyd saying he wont fight Pac cause Arum is due 27% lol. Why so shy to prove me wrong with that Garcia claim tho? Im on a mobile device, just paste the damn paragraph

[HeroBando]

I know the numbers are really hypothetical, but lets say for instance the fight does gross 200 million. If Manny's highest payday is a little less than 30 million (28 million), and Floyds highest payday is 80 million, why is it that this board (in general) feels that Manny should get 3 times his highest payday while Floyd would not even get double his highest payday?

Floyds best purse was nowhere near 80m when he made that offer, maybe half that. Just give it up, it was a shameful offer and you know it

[The Gambler1981]

Play victim lol. So why didnt Floyd take their counter offer of 50m? A raise is a raise. Perhaps they should have offered him 40m + $1, his then career high. A raise is a raise lol

You can just google Arum 27%, tons of links out there including Floyd saying he wont fight Pac cause Arum is due 27% lol. Why so shy to prove me wrong with that Garcia claim tho? Im on a mobile device, just paste the damn paragraph

Because that wasn't even an offer that was Arum talking to the media, an offer would be him offering something actually to Floyd, not him talking to some shill laughing while he says it. Perhaps they should have tried to make the fight instead of spinning to suckers, oh wait they got you to believe but I do have a great offer on some swamp land in New Jersey for you that can make you a lot of money.

I am not shy you have not put anything other than your own words which is based off Floyd whom you always argue against. So I find it odd that this number is so meaningful to you. Look up the Garcia PDF if you want.

Yea you are on a mobile device that is it~

[smoothsmg]

Floyds best purse was nowhere near 80m when he made that offer, maybe half that. Just give it up, it was a shameful offer and you know it

We are talking NOW, and for future reference if the fight takes place. Offereing someone about 20% more (guaranteed) than what they have made without any discussions of back end pay is far from shameful.

[The Gambler1981]

Plus if Floyd was just posturing with the 40 million offer, they could have easily checked it out tried to make it work and thus would have proved Floyd to be full of it, but they did none of that.

You don't know if you don't try, and they certainly didn't try after Floyd reached out with a big fair market value offer.