Margarito Handwrap Scandal : An Illustration of Shameful HBO Bias

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  • TOBYLEE1
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    #131
    Capetillo took the fall and admitted that he put those old things in there because he was using the wrong bag.

    There is nothing else to argue

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #132
      Originally posted by El Angel
      Mosley has no power now? He hit Cotto plenty and Miguel's face didn't appear remotely as bad.
      Mosley is a boxer first and foremost. He isn't a 1000 punch per fight pressure fight. Mosley and Cotto was a boxing match.

      Originally posted by El Angel
      So throwing 1000 punches = landing 1000 punches? Just because he threw a lot of punches, he wasn't landing on Cotto very effeciently in the early rounds. It was the late rounds where his landed shots went up and he did most of his "damage".
      Another complete myth. Margarito hurt Cotto as early as the 2nd round to the body and busted his nose with a right hand. Cotto boxed well in the first half of the fight but lets not act like he wasn't taking shots. They took their toll and he ran out of gas. It became target practice at the end.

      Cotto simply isn't a good enough boxer to have implemented that particular gameplan for 12 rounds.

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      • El Angel
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        #133
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Mosley is a boxer first and foremost. He isn't a 1000 punch per fight pressure fight. Mosley and Cotto was a boxing match.



        Another complete myth. Margarito hurt Cotto as early as the 2nd round to the body and busted his nose with a right hand. Cotto boxed well in the first half of the fight but lets not act like he wasn't taking shots. They took their toll and he ran out of gas. It became target practice at the end.

        Cotto simply isn't a good enough boxer to have implemented that particular gameplan for 12 rounds.
        Just because Mosley and Cotto's pace wasn't as frantic doesn't lessen the damage inflicted by both. They were hitting each with hard single shots.

        Margarito let Cotto know he was there early, but he wasn't seriously troubling Cotto until the 2nd half. He landed on Cotto, but not at as high a rate Cotto was landing on him.

        Cotto did implement this strategy on Margarito in the rematch and executed it rather easily. If the wraps were clean in the first fight like they were in the rematch, you'd get the same result.

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          #134
          Cottos face was more damaged in the second fight than in the first when they stopped it, despite Margarito not being able to land any clean punches. Cotto won because he came correct, didn't let Margarito land the uppercut/combinations, and stayed off the ropes.

          As for the first fight? I see no reason to believe it wasn't legit. Kenny Bayless and Cotto both touched Margaritos wrapped hand after the fight and they didn't say **** about there being anything rock-hard in there. Sour g****s.

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          • BartBears
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            #135
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            My biggest issue is that Cotto. Lost and for years took it like a champ even when the hand wrap scandal first came out he said margs beat him fair and square them all of a sudden he comes out like a little beeotch with iPad showing pictures and crying like a little girl. PAC made him look similar so did PAC use wraps too? Whatever Cotto and his weak az fanboys. Had manny not destroyed Tonys eye tony would have whooped Cotto again. It was the same exact fight until it got stopped. Cotto acted like he had some revenge. But he didn't.
            Well said. Second fight was exactly the same as first. Cotto just won coz of Tony's ****ed up eye. It's a shame they didn't let Tony continue coz Cotto was already gassed by the 9th round.

            ****m is a LIAR. I remember watching a video of him saying the huge BLOCK fell out of the wrap. Where is this huge block? The only thing brought as evidence was a gauze which contained some trace elements, what a load of bs.

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #136
              Originally posted by El Angel
              Just because Mosley and Cotto's pace wasn't as frantic doesn't lessen the damage inflicted by both. They were hitting each with hard single shots.
              Cotto can handle that kind of fight. Look at who he fought before Margarito. Malignaggi, Quintana, Corley, Mosley. All boxerish type fighters. As soon as he faced a non stop aggressive volume puncher, he folded.

              The pace is crucial because Cotto couldn't live with the constant pressure.

              Originally posted by El Angel
              Margarito let Cotto know he was there early, but he wasn't seriously troubling Cotto until the 2nd half. He landed on Cotto, but not at as high a rate Cotto was landing on him.
              You're deluded, Cotto was eating clean shots throughout - the 2nd round was particularly bad for Miguel. The body shots especially wore him down. Cotto was landing cleaner shots, yes but they were having no effect on Margarito.

              Originally posted by El Angel
              Cotto did implement this strategy on Margarito in the rematch and executed it rather easily. If the wraps were clean in the first fight like they were in the rematch, you'd get the same result.
              Nope. He clinched in the second fight and pushed Margarito back which was something he never did the first time. He deserves some credit for that adjustment. But...he was also fighting a shell of the Margarito that he fought in the first fight. Literally a walking zombie with one eye.

              And the result was a doctor stoppage before the championship rounds when Miguel is known to tire.

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              • The Problem Child
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                #137
                How is this controversial? They are expressing their opinions on the matter which is an opinion most boxing fans share.

                The HBO crew stated their opinion with explanations, there is nothing you can fault them for here.

                Take the tinfoil hat off, dummy.

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                • Danieltapia
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                  #138
                  I was a big fan of his until he got busted for plaster.


                  All the denial and excuses in here makes me think of Sammy Sosa hitting all those home runs. Later it came out he had a corked bat and was on steroids.

                  He probably has silly fans somewhere saying there is no proof he was cheating on the nights he got home runs.

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                  • El Angel
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    You're deluded, Cotto was eating clean shots throughout - the 2nd round was particularly bad for Miguel. The body shots especially wore him down. Cotto was landing cleaner shots, yes but they were having no effect on Margarito.
                    He was getting touched throughout, but the rate at which he was getting touched jumped in the 2nd half of the fight. You keep coming back to this 2nd round. I know he got hit, but he was never hurt in that round. As I said, that's the round Cotto realized what he was in with. He breezed by him in the 1st.



                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Nope. He clinched in the second fight and pushed Margarito back which was something he never did the first time. He deserves some credit for that adjustment. But...he was also fighting a shell of the Margarito that he fought in the first fight. Literally a walking zombie with one eye.

                    And the result was a doctor stoppage before the championship rounds when Miguel is known to tire.
                    He also quit leaning so much on his front foot when they were in close and he quit coming to rest on the ropes and in the corners, but the basic premise of the strategy was the same. Hit him with quick flurries and then move before he could retaliate.

                    This "shell'' was repeatedly said to be making Cotto take "another knee''. He kept coming forward, he kept throwing, he never quit. He won maybe 1 round of the first 10. To assume they stopped this fight to save Cotto is hilarious. That's a case of shameful bias.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      This thread was more supposed to be about HBO's shameful one sided coverage than anything. They along with Oscar/GBP hated the fact that Margarito won that Cotto fight. It upset the applecart.

                      Why do they never mention any of Margarito's other opponents? It's always just Cotto. Poor Cotto. A prime Margarito is a stylistic nightmare for Cotto, the fight went exactly as a lot of people thought it would. Cotto has no defence and doesn't know how to clinch. He gasses late in fights and doesn't have a great chin. All these things were evident yet people somehow thinks its impossible for Margarito to have won legitimately.

                      People were looking for excuses as to why Cotto lost from the very next day. Do we not remember the accusations of Margarito being on steroids? I wonder where they came from. Then he came back completely clean.
                      Exactly!!!!!!!

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