If Sweet Pea was in his prime right now in todays era: Where would he be ranked?

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  • megadeth
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    #11
    Originally posted by Luilun
    He would beat Floyd
    Best in the world Whittaker against 17 year old green Mayweather. Now imagine him against prime Mayweather. The outcome certainly ain't as cut and and dry as you make it.



    Mayweather was one of several amateurs, along with Zahir Raheem and Zab Judah, who went to Norfolk to train with Whitaker in 1994.

    Mayweather wouldn't say much about how the sparring went.

    "I've got respect for champions," he said. "It was good work for both of us. That's all I'll say."

    Ronnie Shields, now one of the sport's best trainers, was an assistant trainer under George Benton at the time working with Whitaker. He was there to see Whitaker and Mayweather spar. And while he said Whitaker had few problems with the 17-year-old prodigy, it was obvious that Mayweather was destined to be a superstar.

    "Pernell handled him, like he handled all of those guys," Shields said. "He wasn't hitting them hard, just playing with them, going down low like he did and fighting with his hands at his side. They couldn't hit him. But remember, Pernell was the best in the world at the time. When Mayweather was in there, even though he was having trouble with Pernell, it was obvious how good the kid was.

    "Pernell is a guy who doesn't give out a lot of compliments. He didn't want to say anything about another fighter, because he didn't like the idea of anyone upstaging him. But I remember him saying to me, 'Man, this kid is good right now.' He said to Floyd, 'You stay with this and you remain dedicated, ain't nobody going to touch you.' "
    Last edited by megadeth; 04-02-2014, 02:30 AM.

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      #12
      P4P number 1

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        #13
        Originally posted by megadeth
        Best in the world Whittaker against 17 year old green Mayweather. Now imagine him against prime Mayweather. The outcome certainly ain't as cut and and dry as you make it.



        Mayweather was one of several amateurs, along with Zahir Raheem and Zab Judah, who went to Norfolk to train with Whitaker in 1994.

        Mayweather wouldn't say much about how the sparring went.

        "I've got respect for champions," he said. "It was good work for both of us. That's all I'll say."

        Ronnie Shields, now one of the sport's best trainers, was an assistant trainer under George Benton at the time working with Whitaker. He was there to see Whitaker and Mayweather spar. And while he said Whitaker had few problems with the 17-year-old prodigy, it was obvious that Mayweather was destined to be a superstar.

        "Pernell handled him, like he handled all of those guys," Shields said. "He wasn't hitting them hard, just playing with them, going down low like he did and fighting with his hands at his side. They couldn't hit him. But remember, Pernell was the best in the world at the time. When Mayweather was in there, even though he was having trouble with Pernell, it was obvious how good the kid was.

        "Pernell is a guy who doesn't give out a lot of compliments. He didn't want to say anything about another fighter, because he didn't like the idea of anyone upstaging him. But I remember him saying to me, 'Man, this kid is good right now.' He said to Floyd, 'You stay with this and you remain dedicated, ain't nobody going to touch you.' "


        He isn't better than Sweet pea resume or h2h so stfu.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          More likely than not he'd be P4P #1 today.

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          • VG_Addict
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            #15
            Who do you think he would beat at 147?

            I can't see anyone at 135 beating him.
            Last edited by VG_Addict; 04-02-2014, 09:56 AM.

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            • MurkaMan
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              #16
              Originally posted by megadeth
              Best in the world Whittaker against 17 year old green Mayweather. Now imagine him against prime Mayweather. The outcome certainly ain't as cut and and dry as you make it.



              Mayweather was one of several amateurs, along with Zahir Raheem and Zab Judah, who went to Norfolk to train with Whitaker in 1994.

              Mayweather wouldn't say much about how the sparring went.

              "I've got respect for champions," he said. "It was good work for both of us. That's all I'll say."

              Ronnie Shields, now one of the sport's best trainers, was an assistant trainer under George Benton at the time working with Whitaker. He was there to see Whitaker and Mayweather spar. And while he said Whitaker had few problems with the 17-year-old prodigy, it was obvious that Mayweather was destined to be a superstar.

              "Pernell handled him, like he handled all of those guys," Shields said. "He wasn't hitting them hard, just playing with them, going down low like he did and fighting with his hands at his side. They couldn't hit him. But remember, Pernell was the best in the world at the time. When Mayweather was in there, even though he was having trouble with Pernell, it was obvious how good the kid was.

              "Pernell is a guy who doesn't give out a lot of compliments. He didn't want to say anything about another fighter, because he didn't like the idea of anyone upstaging him. But I remember him saying to me, 'Man, this kid is good right now.' He said to Floyd, 'You stay with this and you remain dedicated, ain't nobody going to touch you.' "
              Honestly that sounds like a humbled man talking. He doesnt give out allot of compliments but probably had so many problems, he didnt know what else to say so he had to give props on some friendly, lets-be-buddys type of trash. You have to remember that when Floyd was in the Am's Pernell was D-Riding, in the audience cheering for him. Trying to be friends with Floyd. Trying to be 'Mentor' to Floyd. Floyd has a bad personality so one day he shietted on Pernell, and after that they stopped being cool.

              I dont want to bad mouth Pernell but mostly all of his fights his defense seemed one dimensional. He has that flashy head movement which he did in every fight. Even as a child Floyd was much more schooled than that. His defense has always been strictly business, no flash, and multi demensional. From the shoulder, the slipping, the foot movement. Sometimes he counter punches you as a defense mechanism. Not saying Floyd at that age could beat Pernell because Pernell is still a grown man and much stronger and quicker. But I think that sparring session was much more embarrassing than they make it seem. Because after that, a guy in Pernell, who gives few compliments, was trying to be buddies, mentor, coming to all his am fights etc. Pernell barely likes Floyd till this day because of how bad Floyd turned on the guy.

              None the less I think Pernell would be top 3 in this day and age.

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              • JDD1
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                #17
                He would be either p4p #1 or #2 behind floyd. I personally would love to see them fight as I think Sweet Pea is one of the boxers that could beat floyd.

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                • Jc8804
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                  #18
                  He would beat every single welter right now.
                  Bradley would be His biggest challenge.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #19
                    so much ignorance.....

                    Sweet Pea is a victim of his own success. The guy based his style off of being unhittable. Mayweather may be more wll rounded but so what? There is hardy a fighter out there that could touch him and Mayweather certainly couldn't

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                    • junior gong
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      He would beat Pacquiao except that Pac would never fight him until he got old. Like he did with Shane Mosley.


                      I would also make prime Whitaker a 55-45 favorite against Floyd.
                      Look at this racist floydfluffer!

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