If Sweet Pea was in his prime right now in todays era: Where would he be ranked?

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  • bose
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    #51
    Originally posted by MurkaMan
    I think slick is a term used to describe elusive fighters with fancy athleticism. I would use the word 'crafty' to describe a fighter like Ward. Ward is awkward, difficult, and smart. Great defense btw.
    Goosen has done such a great job with Ward, i remember seeing the early Ward fights thought he wouldn't surpass David Reid's career (which was good) Ward improved a lot, not getting knocked down was a great improvement, and his style improved a lot. Ward to me still looks great in some fights and ordinary in others. He's wasting his career by not fighting.

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      #52
      Originally posted by PBP
      He'd get ducked from being "high risk/low reward" and not "having a fan friendly" style.

      The ducking nature of today's fighters may have hurt his career.
      And don't forget that promoters would say he's a "hard sell" and TV networks would probably try to shun him.

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      • junior gong
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        #53
        Originally posted by MurkaMan
        I think slick is a term used to describe elusive fighters with fancy athleticism. I would use the word 'crafty' to describe a fighter like Ward. Ward is awkward, difficult, and smart. Great defense btw.
        This is the only time you have made any sense. You could have mentioned the ******* use of the head as a weapon, though.

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        • MurkaMan
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          #54
          Originally posted by bose
          Goosen has done such a great job with Ward, i remember seeing the early Ward fights thought he wouldn't surpass David Reid's career (which was good) Ward improved a lot, not getting knocked down was a great improvement, and his style improved a lot. Ward to me still looks great in some fights and ordinary in others. He's wasting his career by not fighting.
          Yea. I was sticking up for Ward when people called him boring because he was trying to beat the snot out of Froch. Very dirty, aggressive, physical and exciting. What he did to Dawson was WAAAY more exciting than Froch vs Kessley rematch in which Froch threw those slow azz jabs trying to box. Froch should have walked through the punches like the bum he is, and finished the guy. Ward was brutal against Dawson. Then Ward had that fight with Rodriguez and it was a slow night. So then we went back to square one with him reminding everyone about his boring dayz. Yea he need to be in the ring.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #55
            Originally posted by junior gong
            This is the only time you have made any sense. You could have mentioned the ******* use of the head as a weapon, though.
            I always make sense and you agree with everything I say. But your a troll and your job is to troll so you and me argue a tad. It is what it is. We both play our positions.

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            • MurkaMan
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              #56
              Originally posted by junior gong
              This is the only time you have made any sense. You could have mentioned the ******* use of the head as a weapon, though.
              And btw, I have no problem with a fighter using his head and being as aggressive and as physical as possible. As long as its some punches being thrown. If your just dirty fighting with no actual fighting, then thats a problem.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #57
                Originally posted by PBP
                He'd get ducked from being "high risk/low reward" and not "having a fan friendly" style.

                The ducking nature of today's fighters may have hurt his career.
                Definitely. That's why I'm not sure he'd be p4p #1, despite arguably being a better fighter than anyone else today. Assuming everything else stays the same, Mayweather is getting the opponents through his appeal as a draw that Whitaker would not.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan
                  I think slick is a term used to describe elusive fighters with fancy athleticism. I would use the word 'crafty' to describe a fighter like Ward. Ward is awkward, difficult, and smart. Great defense btw.
                  Ward is 100% slick. He makes guys miss inside, at the closest margins. That's what slick is, when you can stand in front of a fighter and make them miss.

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                  • MurkaMan
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Ward is 100% slick. He makes guys miss inside, at the closest margins. That's what slick is, when you can stand in front of a fighter and make them miss.
                    Nah. Slick is pretty, smooth, swagger, fines. Ala Roy Jones, Mayweather. Ward does do all those things you mentioned but not in a smooth swaggie way. Nothing about him is smooth or swaggie. I refer to fighters like him and Bhop as crafty. They are just as effective as slick fighters, but it is not a thing of beauty like Jones and Floyd. Thats why I have a problem when people lie and say Floyd is boring. He not no knock out type of fighter, but he is a beautiful magician. But you all hate him so much you pretend that its boring. Slick fighters are amazing. Crafty fighters, not so much. But when Ward is being dirty, and physical he isnt so much slick, but rather exciting and violent I feel. To each is own.

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                    • GOD-FR33
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                      #60
                      Exactly.....

                      Exactly! Bradley? Hahaha. Is that the best he could come up with? Who do these fanboys think Bradley is? LoL. He lost 2 out of the last 3 fights. Smh. Manny is going to beat his ass in 10 days! I can't wait. Everyone talking like Bradley is going to do something. Unless he's roided up, he don't have a chance!
                      Last edited by GOD-FR33; 04-02-2014, 01:46 PM. Reason: Word count.

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