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  • Originally posted by JDD1 View Post
    I never said floyd was his own promoter I said floyd was a promoter. You keep repeating this when you know it isn't true and I don't know why.

    I've made my points. At this time its best for me to move on.


    I agree regarding my man above. But I hope those other posters will answer.
    so if floyd is not his own promoter why did u say floyd is just trying to do what arum is doing by telling pac to leave arum?? is pac fighting one of floyd's fighter??

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    • Originally posted by rws25 View Post
      If Manny Had any smarts at all, or if anyone around him had any smarts at all, he would leave Arum and become a free agent just as Miguel Cotto did. He would maximize his earning potential exponentially. If Manny can't understand that, without a doubt I would not trust him as a political leader.
      Good points in general.

      I think a guy like Manny will earn wherever he is. He is an a side in every fight except floyd so I see the benefit in being "the guy" at a successful company like TR.

      Name fighters who are not affiliated like cotto and pascal should definitely remain free agents. I would think Tim Bradley might have done same but TR did have a huge $6 mil gurantee and you can't walk away from that.

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      • Originally posted by JDD1 View Post
        what does them testing positive have to do with the question of floyd being a promoter and them being the fighters he promotes?
        Just shows that Floyds house is dirty. Add in Floyds three dirty tests, and it shows theres some shady **** going on over there.

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        • Originally posted by rws25 View Post
          If Manny Had any smarts at all, or if anyone around him had any smarts at all, he would leave Arum and become a free agent just as Miguel Cotto did. He would maximize his earning potential exponentially. If Manny can't understand that, without a doubt I would not trust him as a political leader.
          if manny do that, that means manny would actually have to work and i dont think manny is trying to go that route. with bob all he has to do is show up to collect his check. even though he could be making way more without bob, what he's getting now is good enough for him. therefore he doesnt feel the need to leave. kinda like ur side chick, ur not serious about her but if shes willing to give it up ur gonna keep her around.

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          • Originally posted by Berry Picker View Post
            Just shows that Floyds house is dirty. Add in Floyds three dirty tests, and it shows theres some shady **** going on over there.
            A number of fighters have tested positive. If we use this logic, than Manny and cotto are dirty because Roach trained Jams Toney when he came up dirty. thats silly IMO.

            I only saw an article where it was rumored floyd tested dirty. There was never any confirmation and the author, Thomas Hauser, never followed up with anything so I took it with a grain of salt.

            either way, It didn't have anything to do with my post which was just about floyd being a promoter.

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            • Originally posted by JDD1 View Post
              Good points in general.

              I think a guy like Manny will earn wherever he is. He is an a side in every fight except floyd so I see the benefit in being "the guy" at a successful company like TR.

              Name fighters who are not affiliated like cotto and pascal should definitely remain free agents. I would think Tim Bradley might have done same but TR did have a huge $6 mil gurantee and you can't walk away from that.
              Bradley has his wife managing his career, I personally would not let her run or manage anything I was associated with. Bradley has what 3 options at TR. If he went to GBP he would get paid, fight frequently and have 10-15 options.

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              • Originally posted by JDD1 View Post
                A number of fighters have tested positive. If we use this logic, than Manny and cotto are dirty because Roach trained Jams Toney when he came up dirty. thats silly IMO.

                I only saw an article where it was rumored floyd tested dirty. There was never any confirmation and the author, Thomas Hauser, never followed up with anything so I took it with a grain of salt.

                either way, It didn't have anything to do with my post which was just about floyd being a promoter.
                Hauser has had a vendetta against Floyd for years now. He discredits him at ANY chance he can get.

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                • Originally posted by rws25 View Post
                  Bradley has his wife managing his career, I personally would not let her run or manage anything I was associated with. Bradley has what 3 options at TR. If he went to GBP he would get paid, fight frequently and have 10-15 options.
                  Yeah but that $6 mil in the hand is not something I personally would walk away from, especially if its Tim Bradley who doesn't have a strong fanbase that supports him.

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                  • This thread still going i see lmao

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                    • Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      if manny do that, that means manny would actually have to work and i dont think manny is trying to go that route. with bob all he has to do is show up to collect his check. even though he could be making way more without bob, what he's getting now is good enough for him. therefore he doesnt feel the need to leave. kinda like ur side chick, ur not serious about her but if shes willing to give it up ur gonna keep her around.
                      Well to understand, Cotto did as much work in his Mayweather fight as he did in every other fight, on a business standpoint. "Cotto Promotions", "Khan Promotions", they are simply names on checking accounts. They are not real companies. GBP does all the heavy lifting. The same is with Floyd. "Mayweather Promotions" is just a title screen, GBP does the work. The SHO Box fights that are "promoted" by Mayweather promotions are in reality done by GBP. If Manny became a free agent it would be the same. Instead of TR doing the work for the promotion, GBP would be. If Manny dosen't want to make the switch, then rest assured, hes either lazy or just plain ****** to not realize the opportunities available to him. Like I said in my previous post GBP has between 10-15 options for Manny, where as Top Rank has 3 or so. If he wants to maximize his potential, growth and stock, he should become a free agent and sign with promotional companies on and fight by fight basis.

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