So now it's Alex Ariza's words that we have to believe, ok. So when Manny offers Floyd to fight for charity after he gone running his mouth, what happen? He got quiet all of a sudden. We, boxing fans knows who wants the fight and who wants to act diva and not want the fight. Manny was on National TV when he said it, he even have that old phone as his prop. "my line is open 24/7, all he have to do is call" BOOM, silence from Floyd. END OF DISCUSSiON!!!!
Um Floyd did call his phone and was turned down, how you turn down 40mil then say you would fight for FREE? WELL WHY DIDNT YOU FIGHT FOR THE 40MIL. Isnt that a duck on Pac's behalf he turned down the fight offered to him by Floyd and he would fight for charity while 40mil wasnt enough?????
Like i said both guys are to blame and from the look of it you sucking pac nuts because he do no wrong in your eyes all three are to blame arum fmj and pac its not my fault arum sold you guys a dream thinking pac was the a side when in reality he is not
As I told you, I am a fan of boxing not just a fan boy, why you sound so butthurt? Don't you wanna find out how great your Daddy is? He claims he's TBE right? Sorry I have no respect and adoration to any Boxer/fighters claiming they're the best, and yet refuse to fight the BEST. I couldn't care less what Manny makes, I don't get ish from his wallet, matter of fact I put that ish in his wallet, but guess what it's all good cause I enjoy watching him fights. Same can't be said against your Daddy.
because u're missing the point here. when shane and marquez did it they had nowhere else left to go. manny still have options even if he stays with TR. thats why pac is saying he's not gonna just leave TR for a floyd fight. bob will recycle the same fights and manny will still be making the same he's always have. can u say the same with shane and marquez if they didnt sign with TR? manny is not in a desperate mode like shane and marquez and pac made it clear that he's not. marquez is set to fight alvarado and possibly the winner of pac/bradley again, will marquez be in these type of big fights if he didnt sign with TR?
I understand what you posted, I don't agree with it.
No offense, but if its ok for them TR to do it it should be ok for other promoters, even a rouge outfit like floyd and TMT.
you make good points but Its not about shane or JMM's options. for me its either you are ok with it or you are not. I dont think you can differentiate based on fighter income or possible long term options.
I think I've made salient points. I haven't taken a side. Whatever changed, we may never know. I've tried to guess what may have hapened, as have others. Posters have listed several things that have changed since then and all you've done is criticize the poster.
IMO, floyd saying he doesn't want to work with arum and asking manny to sign with TMT/MP is in direct response to Bob using this tactic starting in 2011.
Arum never asked Floyd to leave GBP or sign with TR so you're kind of reaching there.
2011? I thought it was 2013. Wait, so Bob started doing it in 2011 but Floyd was still willing to work with him in 2012 - that's when the 40m publicity stunt....i mean "offer" was made.
But then in 2013, he caught on to what Bob was doing? Damn you don;t give Mayweather's intelligence much credit if it took him 2 years to figure that out. Not really a "direct" response, is it?
No they didn't. But all we heard after that was "if you da best, take the test". So when they agreed to take the test in the next round of negotiations, suddenly a new roadblock appeared, then another and another.
So if Pacquaio leaves Arum, what will be the next roadblock I wonder?
Um Floyd did call his phone and was turned down, how you turn down 40mil then say you would fight for FREE? WELL WHY DIDNT YOU FIGHT FOR THE 40MIL. Isnt that a duck on Pac's behalf he turned down the fight offered to him by Floyd and he would fight for charity while 40mil wasnt enough?????
Then how can you turn down a 50M counter offer? lol
Floyd called up Pac offered 40mil and Pac turned down fighting the guy who is supposedly ducking. Then he says he would fight for free? How is 40mil not enough when you say later you would fight for free? Floyd offered Manny the fight and Manny DECLINED cause it wasnt enough. but he would fight for free?
Manny Ducked Floyd plain and simple
Arum never asked Floyd to leave GBP or sign with TR so you're kind of reaching there.
2011? I thought it was 2013. Wait, so Bob started doing it in 2011 but Floyd was still willing to work with him in 2012 - that's when the 40m publicity stunt....i mean "offer" was made.
But then in 2013, he caught on to what Bob was doing? Damn you don;t give Mayweather's intelligence much credit if it took him 2 years to figure that out. Not really a "direct" response, is it?
I don't recall ever saying Bob asked floyd to do that.
Thats when Bob had jmm, shane and tim leave to join TR.
Again, I said something could've changed behind the scenes that you don't know about. Besides the above the only things we do know is the beef between Haymon/TR/GBP?networks has gotten much worse.
I don't recall ever saying Bob asked floyd to do that.
Thats when Bob had jmm, shane and tim leave to join TR.
Again, I said something could've changed behind the scenes that you don't know about. Besides the above the only things we do know is the beef between Haymon/TR/GBP?networks has gotten much worse.
No, it isn't a direct response.
Or maybe after multiple attempts to make the fight, Mayweather realized that the stumbling block was Arum, not Manny.
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