Which fighters do you suspect of juicing past or present?

[jimboinbigd]

You forgot Mayweather

No I didn't. He's the least su****ious fighter, imo. The fighters I mentioned above I have no doubts about their shadiness.

[MurkaMan]

Disclaimer, this is not a thread of accusations, I'm just speaking about my personal su****ions as a fan

Let's be objective about this... No fanboyism just be honest.

Here's my list.

Mayweather and Pacquiao, Matthysse, Kovalev, Marquez, Rigo, Bernard Hopkins (maybe), Canelo (maybe)

Reasons:

Mayweather

IDGAF how much you spout ''hard work dedication'', it's simply not normal to be performing at this level at the age of 37, people also forget that roids help you train harder and longer, plus the fact that he went on this PEDs crusade comes across as being like someone who is trying to hide their own juicing by accusing other fighters (Pacman) to deflect accusations from himself.

Also the video when he was questioned about TRT (Testosterone replacement therapy) was su****ious as hell, his face looked guilty as hell. There has also been another instance where he was asked about TRT and he looked at Ellerbe worried as hell. Not to mention his balding, small looking testicles and apparent anger management problems, the tell tale signs are there.

(TRT, EPO) (opinion)

Pacquiao

As much as I love Manny, one cannot deny that in his peak at 2009 he was strangely physically gifted, if he was natural he may be the genetic freak of our times, his stamina was inhuman, and his power was cray. Ariza is also a su****ious character and he's been caught with Rios, plus the talk of Freddie not knowing what was in those ''shakes''. Plus he didn't jump at the opportunity to abide to the random testing in the Mayweather negotiations. Manny always had the physical gifts but he is not beyond su****ion.

(EPO, HGH, Testosterone) (Opinion)

Matthysse

This guy had crazy power, he just dropped guys right left and center, but my main su****ions are that leading up to the Garcia a poster mentioned that he alongside many big time gamblers had inside info that Matthysse was a big juicer and that he wouldn't have the same power against Garcia, alas Garcia was the one who appeared to have the greater power in that fight.

Bernard Hopkins

I'm a big fan of B-Hop but you can't be performing like this at the age of 50, it's just not normal notwithstanding a clean lifestyle etc. (probable drugs) (HGH, TRT)

Rigondeaux

This is mainly due to a documentary I watched on the cuban academies, where they said the most talented fighters get the best 'vitamins' hmmm.... sounds like some su****ious ish to me, there isn't that great of a variation in vitamin quality, plus they don't have that great of an effect on performance.

Feel free to discuss.

I think Floyd and Martinez. Martinez morphed into a stallion in a small time frame. He started hitting hard af. I think Floyd because of his great power increase. He buckled Canelo with a stiff jab. His training is natural. He could naturally run 4 miles when he was 7 yrs old, and he will never lose that conditioning. Its a gift. He's one of those guys that can just keep going and going, and people have to tell him to slow down. The trt video didnt make me think anything. If you dont know anything about roids, your going to be confused as hell when someone asks you about testosterone replacement therapy. He reacted like a person that knows nothing about roids. And he didnt look like he was faking. It looked like someone was asking him about advanced science. But look at how big he got, how much power he got, how tough and durable he was against Canelo. THATS why I think he is on roids. Not because of the TRT video, or because of his training. Floyd is going to be training like this forever, and he will never lose that gift. But his power increase is su****ious and I dont hear too many people talking about it.

[jimboinbigd]

I think Floyd and Martinez. Martinez morphed into a stallion in a small time frame. He started hitting hard af. I think Floyd because of his great power increase. He buckled Canelo with a stiff jab. His training is natural. He could naturally run 4 miles when he was 7 yrs old, and he will never lose that conditioning. Its a gift. He's one of those guys that can just keep going and going, and people have to tell him to slow down. The trt video didnt make me think anything. If you dont know anything about roids, your going to be confused as hell when someone asks you about testosterone replacement therapy. He reacted like a person that knows nothing about roids. And he didnt look like he was faking. It looked like someone was asking him Kuabout advanced science. But look at how big he got, how much power he got, how tough and durable he was against Canelo. THATS why I think he is on roids. Not because of the TRT video, or because of his training. Floyd is going to be training like this forever, and he will never lose that gift. But his power increase is su****ious and I dont hear too many people talking about it.

What are you talking about? Power increase? If you don't count Victor Ortiz, Floyd hasn't put anyone on the deck since he caught Marquez 5 years ago and he hasn't kod anyone since 2007.

Way too many delusional Floyd haters and trolls littering up this site these days. Tough reading half these threads anymore.

[UTEP]

You forgot Mayweather

No I didn't. He's the least su****ious fighter, imo. The fighters I mentioned above I have no doubts about their shadiness.

Yea Mayweather's clean! Everybody else is on the juice tho!

Off the top of my head, I always thought those muscles along the shoulder/neck of Commander Vander (lats?) made him look like a Cardassian from Star Trek. Highly su****ious physique IMO.

Sugared Shane Mosley, obviously.

Hughie Fury, due to the back zits.

And Ping Ping.

[junior gong]

Floyd by a mile. Juicing is a cultural thing at TMT.

[jimboinbigd]

Yea Mayweather's clean! Everybody else is on the juice tho!

Who said everyone else?

Again, more Floyd trolling. Stick to the facts, kid. When you reach you've been beat.

[Vasyl’s dad]

No I didn't. He's the least su****ious fighter, imo. The fighters I mentioned above I have no doubts about their shadiness.

Floyd is the most su****ious. Always says, "Manny is doing things nobody has ever done before". Like what? Win fights? Fact of the matter is, before all of this Floyd used to love to say, "I have done something nobody has ever done before, I won 5 titles in 5 weight divisions in less than 10 years". Su****ious for Manny but not su****ious for Floyd?

Floyd "retired" after the Mosely-Balco scandal broke in 2007. Didn't fight until 18 months later. Didn't even request his phony random drug testing until Manny smashed Hatton and Cotto. During his retirement, he was toying around in WWE, where most if not all wrestlers, are juiced to the gills. At that time, he was kicking it with another juicer, 50 cent.

Manny arises as a potential threat to Floyd, so Floyd outright accuses him of using PEDs, with no proof. Thats usually what guilty people do, accuse others to try to deflect blame from themselves. Then we find out, that in Floyds phony testing, he has a loophole in order to get rid of dirty tests. Then you factor in how many fighters from Floyds camp have tested dirty, and you have the ringleader himself.

Floyd "the Roid" Mayweather.

[I Love Jesus!]

That gut looks so healthy...

Hhahahahahahahha

[junior gong]

Who said everyone else?

Again, more Floyd trolling. Stick to the facts, kid. When you reach you've been beat.

Facts? How about all floyds fighters that have been busted for juicing? And there is always those 3 failed drug tests!

Floyd's up to his neck in it, son and most likely has been for most of his career.