To all my boxingscene business men. How much more is Adonis making for BHOP than Kov?

[BoxingGenius27]

I just read somewhere that Stevenson is due to make 1.75 mil with Showtime. That means the Kovalev fight wasn't to far off from this same price, because HBO was willing to match the 40% increase, but Stevenson/Haymon refused to agree.

So, again, I ask all my boxingscene businessmen; EXACTLY how much more is Stevenson making with Hopkins than will Kovalev?

[Shambrolic]

Not really. Dan Rafael said HBO was just being cheap because the difference wasn't big at all.

That's why I'm asking for concrete numbers, not assumptions. Real businessmen don't assume

I'm not saying you called yourself a businessman but you been assuming a lot and propagating your speculation on this topic for a week now. I'm not familiar with your name but every time I see a Stevenson thread I already know it's going to be the guy with that black rapper as his profile.

[BoxingGenius27]

I'm not saying you called yourself a businessman but you been assuming a lot and propagating your speculation on this topic for a week now. I'm not familiar with your name but every time I see a Stevenson thread I already know it's going to be the guy with that black rapper as his profile.

I'm not assuming anything. Everything is right in the article I posted in this thread.

Do I like Stevenson? No.

Do I like Kovalev? Heck no; especially after all that racist stuff.

Do I want to see a good fight? you bet your little ass I do.

Therefore, I'm just calling it how I see it.

[BattlingNelson]

This is incorrect. Check the article

My source was boxingscene's Jake Donovan.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergey-ko...out-net--76141

It wasn't Showtime offering Adonis more money. It was Haymon requesting 40% more than what HBO agreed upon for a Kovalev-Stevenson fight, yet he still wouldn't guarantee he would accept a Stevenson-Kovalev fight even if HBO agreed to the %40 increase in pay. Stevenson allowed this despite his own manager telling him the money from Kovalev was as good as it was going to get.

In result, HBO wouldn't do business because Haymon only wanted to negotiate a Fonfara-Stevenson fight.

This is why Stevenson left and why HBO wouldn't go up in their offer. NOT because Showtime out bid them lol

In other words, Stevenson/Haymon were going to Showtime if HBO matched the offer or not.

According to Donovan, HBO was outbid by Showtime.

[BoxingGenius27]

My source was boxingscene's Jake Donovan.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergey-ko...out-net--76141


According to Donovan, HBO was outbid by Showtime.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...5865--box.html

HBO gave up not because they were outbid, they gave up because even if they matched Showtime's offer of 40% increase, Haymon/Stevenson still would only negotiate a one fight deal in Stevenson-Fonfara and WOULDN'T accept a Kovalev deal regardless.

So again, Showtime didn't outbid anyone. HBO knew Stevenson/Haymon were going to Showtime and wouldn't fight Kovalev whether they met Haymon/Stevenson's demands or not.

[BoxingGenius27]

My source was boxingscene's Jake Donovan.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sergey-ko...out-net--76141


According to Donovan, HBO was outbid by Showtime.

"Not long afterward, Stevenson hired Al Haymon, the high-powered manager with the ever-increasing stable. And it was from there that the deal to pit Stevenson and Kovalev crumbled. An HBO source said Haymon asked for 40 percent more than HBO had agreed upon to pay Stevenson. The same course said further than Haymon told the network he would only negotiate a one-fight deal, for Stevenson-Fonfara, and wouldn't talk about a potential bout with Kovalev even if HBO had agreed to the 40-percent increase."

So even if HBO agreed upon the 40% increased request, Haymon still wouldn't guarantee he would accept.

I need you to use critcal thinking here.

Did Showtime outbid HBO? I guess you can say that if you're blind to the FACT that even if HBO gave Haymon/Stevenson they're request, they still wouldn't agree to the Kovalev fight regardless. So yea, I guess Showtime did outbid them

[BattlingNelson]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...5865--box.html

HBO gave up not because they were outbid, they gave up because even if they matched Showtime's offer of 40% increase, Haymon/Stevenson still would only negotiate a one fight deal in Stevenson-Fonfara and WOULDN'T accept a Kovalev deal regardless.

So Showtime offered more for the Fonfara fight than HBO right?

So again, Showtime didn't outbid anyone. HBO knew Stevenson/Haymon were going to Showtime and wouldn't fight Kovalev whether they met Haymon/Stevenson's demands or not.

If person A in an auction offers more money for a commodity than person B it is equivalent of person A outbidding person B.

Its not a particularly difficult concept genius.

[BoxingGenius27]

So Showtime offered more for the Fonfara fight than HBO right?

If person A in an auction offers more money for a commodity than person B it is equivalent of person A outbidding person B.

Its not a particularly difficult concept genius.

OMG you seriously can't be this ******. It's impossible.

What don't you understand about the fact that Haymon/Stevenson REFUSED to accept a Kovalev fight so that's why HBO didn't match Showtime's offer?

It had nothing to do with Showtime's money. Get that out of your dense little head. Do you really think that Showtime's pockets are deeper than HBO's?? I mean seriously.

Do you really believe that HBO couldn't match a Stevenson - Fonfara fight offer? Haymon would only negotiate for one fight. That's it. He refused to even consider a Kovalev fight even if HBO gave Haymon/Stevenson the world.

You can't possibly be this ****** yet making fun of my username at the same time. I go through this every time with you. It's beginning to be a bit annoying.

[Bushbaby]

It's like this Genius a lot of boxing fans have grown so accustomed to acting like boxing advisers and the defend of the duck that they don't see the clear duck sitting right in front of their faces. That money excuse and good business move should not be uttered from the mouth of a boxing fan. Now if you're a part of a fighters entourage and getting some o dat loot, I'd understand. But if you're a nutt hanging dingleberry, well your priorities are mixed up.

[BoxingGenius27]

It's like this Genius a lot of boxing fans have grown so accustomed to acting like boxing advisers and the defend of the duck that they don't see the clear duck sitting right in front of their faces. That money excuse and good business move should not be uttered from the mouth of a boxing fan. Now if you're a part of a fighters entourage and getting some o dat loot, I'd understand. But if you're a nutt hanging dingleberry, well your priorities are mixed up.

I never understood why some people act like they're seeing a fighter's money in their own bank account.