Nonbiased accurate look at Floyd's resume.

[jvsnypes]

We simply have a new age of boxing fans. There is really no comparing Floyd to Leonard or Ali unless you are truly a huge fan of Floyd. I respect that. A person's judgement will always be inaccurate when they analyze fighters with their heart and an inexperienced knowledge of the sport. If you put Floyd in the 80's era, he stays at 135. There's no way in hell he moves up to 147. We live in the era where "skills pay the bills". But students of the sport and older boxing fans know that simply isn't true. If you didn't have the power to keep guys like Chavez Sr, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Pryor, etc off of you...they would walk right through all that skill and destroy you. Fighters aren't built that way in this day and time.

What do you think Floyd means when he say he is a bank robber? He said he is robbing the bank. Younger fans aren't catching it. Older experienced fans know exactly what he means. He is making some of the biggest paydays in sport's history by beating C class fighters. Floyd calls himself a throwback fighter because he knows todays era is not on the same level. And in all honesty, that is why he and Pacquiao can move so far up in weight. Can you imagine Hearns, Leonard, and Duran fighting in this era. No, can you imagine them fighting Floyd's opponents??? No one would even buy the ppv because they know it would be a waist of money. The results would be brutal KOs. Floyd's resume is good for this era. Still too many misses for my liking. I've watched some of the best throughout the years and their level of opposition. Is Floyd capable of fighting on that level...yes. But has he actually fought that type of A class opposition...NO!

I respect anyone's opinion. But I notice that most Floyd fans need to bash past greats to elevate Floyd. Let Floyd go out and fight other greats and elevate himself. His fans find themselves debating and defending him while he sits back, make the easy fights and laugh about it while he's making these huge paydays. Floyd knows the truth. Its a shame that his fans don't. When you bash an all time great like Leonard and discredit his resume, the credability is ****** out of the post and your boxing knowledge will always be questioned. Floyd is a great fighter that has built his reputation off of overhyped C level fighters, and a few A level fighters that were way past it. He has became a very rich man in doing so. He is not the best ever and probably can fight until he is 50 with the level of opposition he is facing.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

We simply have a new age of boxing fans. There is really no comparing Floyd to Leonard or Ali unless you are truly a huge fan of Floyd. I respect that. A person's judgement will always be inaccurate when they analyze fighters with their heart and an inexperienced knowledge of the sport. If you put Floyd in the 80's era, he stays at 135. There's no way in hell he moves up to 147. We live in the era where "skills pay the bills". But students of the sport and older boxing fans know that simply isn't true. If you didn't have the power to keep guys like Chavez Sr, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Pryor, etc off of you...they would walk right through all that skill and destroy you. Fighters aren't built that way in this day and time.

What do you think Floyd means when he say he is a bank robber? He said he is robbing the bank. Younger fans aren't catching it. Older experienced fans know exactly what he means. He is making some of the biggest paydays in sport's history by beating C class fighters. Floyd calls himself a throwback fighter because he knows todays era is not on the same level. And in all honesty, that is why he and Pacquiao can move so far up in weight. Can you imagine Hearns, Leonard, and Duran fighting in this era. No, can you imagine them fighting Floyd's opponents??? No one would even buy the ppv because they know it would be a waist of money. The results would be brutal KOs. Floyd's resume is good for this era. Still too many misses for my liking. I've watched some of the best throughout the years and their level of opposition. Is Floyd capable of fighting on that level...yes. But has he actually fought that type of A class opposition...NO!

I respect anyone's opinion. But I notice that most Floyd fans need to bash past greats to elevate Floyd. Let Floyd go out and fight other greats and elevate himself. His fans find themselves debating and defending him while he sits back, make the easy fights and laugh about it while he's making these huge paydays. Floyd knows the truth. Its a shame that his fans don't. When you bash an all time great like Leonard and discredit his resume, the credability is ****** out of the post and your boxing knowledge will always be questioned. Floyd is a great fighter that has built his reputation off of overhyped C level fighters, and a few A level fighters that were way past it. He has became a very rich man in doing so. He is not the best ever and probably can fight until he is 50 with the level of opposition he is facing.

Good post, well put,,, green k

[MurkaMan]

Just because the op stated Floyd ducked PAC doesn't make it unbiased. This was a truly biased thread/ post by the op.
I enjoy watching Floyd fight and put on a clinic. But fact of the matter is that he has ducked his biggest challenges out there. I wanted to see him fight margs, a prime Mosley, PAC, Martinez, GGG and others. I truly believe that he can : could have beaten them all too but he is content with mediocrity and claiming he is the best when he hasn't fought the best at their best

Everyone knows Im not biased. I proved that even with him ducking Pac, it doesnt even matter. No fighter can take the opponents he HAS fought, and make them look this foolish. No fighter in history is this sharp. And look at the biased trash you write.

GGG and Martinez GTFO!!! LOL GGG would punch holes in Mayweather. He's too big. Floyd is, and never was obligated to fight anyone above 154. Those are bonus fights. He cant even make 153. But of course you know all of this. You just type this trash to avoid admitting the obvious. That even without Pac, Floyd is the sharpest fighter you have ever witnessed.

[MurkaMan]

gee, how dare you compare floyd over ali?

and over srl? because of floyd's 0?

tsk tsk tsk....

ali never cheated a foe like floyd did...nor did ali sucker punched an adversary...

you think cheating and sucker punching part of poetry?

No suckerpunching is apart of fighting. I kid you not when I say this, but I actually didnt think Floyd even had the dog in him to violate Ortiz the way he did. I thought it was shocking and exciting myself. But you make it seem like he won all of his fights like that. He won all of his fights with what? Poetry. And when did he ever cheat? I always thought he may be taking roids because of his power increase but if your talking about JMM, no I dont consider that cheating. No fighter in history could do what he did to JMM. Floyd is the only fighter who can be Floyd.

[tangalog2200]

We simply have a new age of boxing fans. There is really no comparing Floyd to Leonard or Ali unless you are truly a huge fan of Floyd. I respect that. A person's judgement will always be inaccurate when they analyze fighters with their heart and an inexperienced knowledge of the sport. If you put Floyd in the 80's era, he stays at 135. There's no way in hell he moves up to 147. We live in the era where "skills pay the bills". But students of the sport and older boxing fans know that simply isn't true. If you didn't have the power to keep guys like Chavez Sr, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Pryor, etc off of you...they would walk right through all that skill and destroy you. Fighters aren't built that way in this day and time.

What do you think Floyd means when he say he is a bank robber? He said he is robbing the bank. Younger fans aren't catching it. Older experienced fans know exactly what he means. He is making some of the biggest paydays in sport's history by beating C class fighters. Floyd calls himself a throwback fighter because he knows todays era is not on the same level. And in all honesty, that is why he and Pacquiao can move so far up in weight. Can you imagine Hearns, Leonard, and Duran fighting in this era. No, can you imagine them fighting Floyd's opponents??? No one would even buy the ppv because they know it would be a waist of money. The results would be brutal KOs. Floyd's resume is good for this era. Still too many misses for my liking. I've watched some of the best throughout the years and their level of opposition. Is Floyd capable of fighting on that level...yes. But has he actually fought that type of A class opposition...NO!

I respect anyone's opinion. But I notice that most Floyd fans need to bash past greats to elevate Floyd. Let Floyd go out and fight other greats and elevate himself. His fans find themselves debating and defending him while he sits back, make the easy fights and laugh about it while he's making these huge paydays. Floyd knows the truth. Its a shame that his fans don't. When you bash an all time great like Leonard and discredit his resume, the credability is ****** out of the post and your boxing knowledge will always be questioned. Floyd is a great fighter that has built his reputation off of overhyped C level fighters, and a few A level fighters that were way past it. He has became a very rich man in doing so. He is not the best ever and probably can fight until he is 50 with the level of opposition he is facing.

a very sensible view and well written..

[tangalog2200]

No suckerpunching is apart of fighting. I kid you not when I say this, but I actually didnt think Floyd even had the dog in him to violate Ortiz the way he did. I thought it was shocking and exciting myself. But you make it seem like he won all of his fights like that. He won all of his fights with what? Poetry. And when did he ever cheat? I always thought he may be taking roids because of his power increase but if your talking about JMM, no I dont consider that cheating. No fighter in history could do what he did to JMM. Floyd is the only fighter who can be Floyd.

yes, no other fighter can do what floyd did to jmm....

because THEY WON'T.....

won't pull an opponent up 2 weight classes....

and won't cheat on the scales...

[jvsnypes]

So why did he duck Manny if he is so skilled??? Showing your ability and skill against C level fighters and showing it against A level fighters is entirely 2 different things. His fights with Cotto, Judah, and an old Mosley spoke volumes to me. Even with the wins, I saw the flaws. Flaws that Manny would have exposed back in 2009. That's not me saying Manny would have won, but that's me saying he gets KO'd by Leonard and Hearns.

[sugarsmosley]

We simply have a new age of boxing fans. There is really no comparing Floyd to Leonard or Ali unless you are truly a huge fan of Floyd. I respect that. A person's judgement will always be inaccurate when they analyze fighters with their heart and an inexperienced knowledge of the sport. If you put Floyd in the 80's era, he stays at 135. There's no way in hell he moves up to 147. We live in the era where "skills pay the bills". But students of the sport and older boxing fans know that simply isn't true. If you didn't have the power to keep guys like Chavez Sr, Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Pryor, etc off of you...they would walk right through all that skill and destroy you. Fighters aren't built that way in this day and time.

What do you think Floyd means when he say he is a bank robber? He said he is robbing the bank. Younger fans aren't catching it. Older experienced fans know exactly what he means. He is making some of the biggest paydays in sport's history by beating C class fighters. Floyd calls himself a throwback fighter because he knows todays era is not on the same level. And in all honesty, that is why he and Pacquiao can move so far up in weight. Can you imagine Hearns, Leonard, and Duran fighting in this era. No, can you imagine them fighting Floyd's opponents??? No one would even buy the ppv because they know it would be a waist of money. The results would be brutal KOs. Floyd's resume is good for this era. Still too many misses for my liking. I've watched some of the best throughout the years and their level of opposition. Is Floyd capable of fighting on that level...yes. But has he actually fought that type of A class opposition...NO!

I respect anyone's opinion. But I notice that most Floyd fans need to bash past greats to elevate Floyd. Let Floyd go out and fight other greats and elevate himself. His fans find themselves debating and defending him while he sits back, make the easy fights and laugh about it while he's making these huge paydays. Floyd knows the truth. Its a shame that his fans don't. When you bash an all time great like Leonard and discredit his resume, the credability is ****** out of the post and your boxing knowledge will always be questioned. Floyd is a great fighter that has built his reputation off of overhyped C level fighters, and a few A level fighters that were way past it. He has became a very rich man in doing so. He is not the best ever and probably can fight until he is 50 with the level of opposition he is facing.

A true ATG post, greenk sir.

[RetroSpeed05]

Everyone knows Im not biased. I proved that even with him ducking Pac, it doesnt even matter. No fighter can take the opponents he HAS fought, and make them look this foolish. No fighter in history is this sharp. And look at the biased trash you write.

GGG and Martinez GTFO!!! LOL GGG would punch holes in Mayweather. He's too big. Floyd is, and never was obligated to fight anyone above 154. Those are bonus fights. He cant even make 153. But of course you know all of this. You just type this trash to avoid admitting the obvious. That even without Pac, Floyd is the sharpest fighter you have ever witnessed.

Make them look foolish? like who? pernell whitaker made Prime oscar look foolish and Floyd against old Delahoya? getting tagged by Zab? getting Knockdown in the 10th by chop chop? Floyd would not make any of the greats that SRL fought look foolish. SRL would knockout a lot of floyds opponents out in my opinion.

[MurkaMan]

A. Styles do make fights, see Ali/Foreman/Fraizer. Also JMM and Ortiz are completely different fighters.

B. Then you're a ****ty fan.

C. Because the best fight the best to prove their the GOAT.

D. No, you should retire. Not retire and then come back when everyone in the hottest division has gone to war with each other yet still make a LW move up and not even make weight.

E. Because true boxing fans don't base your greatness on your bank account but rather your resume and what you actually did, not what you could have, which is what this thread is about.

F. I never denied his skill, but you're asking to compare resumes.

G. I'll give you that one, I can't see any way Hearns is able to KO Ortiz as he's looking at the ref. And let's face it, there's no way SRL could beat JMM. And anyone who says SRR could win UD against the Ghost is just delusional.

I think your confusing yourself. What I said is that no matter what style you have, Floyd can completely change his style in order to dominate you without being grazed. No fighter in history can do that. To him an opponent is just an opponent. They are all the same to him. He's just too perfect.

And how many fighters have retired and come back? A bunch. He didnt retire to duck a bunch of easy fights. He retired because he spent his whole career chasing Gatti and Oscar and after he got those fights, he was done with the sport. And notice he was a washed up fighter against Oscar and Hatton both. The Floyd who fought JMM was the new Floyd that we see today.

You make it seem like he strategically waited for those easy opponents to go to war with eachother. Thats a myth that Floyd haters made up in their heads. Just like all the other myths I debunked. They were easy opponents in their prime, and likewise when he fought them. No fighter is as sharp as Floyd

And what are you talking about me basing his greatness on his bank account? Oh are you taking my comments about him going directly to his money fights, and pretending that you are getting them confused? Your not a fool. You know he was making wise choices by going to his money fights which MADE him the star he is today. That comment alone, and the way you pretended that I was basing his greatness on his bank account, let me know that your biased against him, and hate the fact that Im right. These silly troll statements wont work on me. I know more about boxing than you do.

And I never compared resumes. Again your pretending to get confused. If SRL could beat the guys he beat imagine how silly Floyd would make them look. But its absolutely no way SRL could dominate Floyd's opponents without being grazed. He would get hit by all of them. He's just not as good of a fighter.