Nonbiased accurate look at Floyd's resume.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So you think SRL running around the ring from Duran is the same as Floyd masterfully outslicking JMM? Its not even close to the same. Yea SRL avoided all the shots in that fight, but by running.

Floyd stood in front of JMM, and did all types of defensive dipsy doodles on this man. Floyd is better than he is supposed to be. But if you admitted that, then you may be saying something else that you dont want to say.

What is it that you dont want to say?

Floyd is a better defender than Leonard, but Leonard is the better fighter with the better resume, with the better wins, and took all the big fights people wanted to see in a very short span...

Floyd can't land any meaningful fights even though he is the biggest payday in the sport for any fighter... Should tell u a lot about Floyd's desire for big fights

[RetroSpeed05]

SRL aint SHIET. He lost to lightweight. Your talking about a guy who ran around the ring from Herns, with a scared facial expression then all of a sudden he realizes he can hurt Herns, so he has an exaggerrated mean face like he's billy bad ass, while coming forward. Floyd never would do any clown shiet like that. Floyd would stand in front of him in the first round and overwhelm a big tall slow fighter like that.

SRL got hit by any and EVERY type of fighter. He was good at finding a way to win, but never did anything masterful.

Floyd fought JMM, Mosley, Ortiz, Ghost, and Canelo all back to back. Cotto was a shot fighter so I dont throw him in the mix.

Floyd's my favorite fighter in this era but that doesn't mean i ignore the facts nor, should you. SRL resume destroys every ones in this Era including Floyd. What fighter does floyd have in his resume that even compares to Wilfredo Benitez? SrL would have knocked JMM out. Hes a much bigger WW At 5"11 stronger and had much better footwork. Duran the "lightweight" as u call him actually went to middleweight and won the title. Is JMM ever going to do that? FLoyd 2 biggest HoF in his Resume where past there prime which i still give credit to Floyd but to a certain extent. Regardless if they ducked him in the past or not the fights didn't happen. Even if they did there not beating SRL resume. Pac would have been a nice addition including some other names but they didn't happen so you cant count them.

[MurkaMan]

Floyd is a better defender than Leonard, but Leonard is the better fighter with the better resume, with the better wins, and took all the big fights people wanted to see in a very short span...

Floyd can't land any meaningful fights even though he is the biggest payday in the sport for any fighter... Should tell u a lot about Floyd's desire for big fights

NO Floyd is a better FIGHTER than SRL. All around better at EVERYTHING. SRL may have had some big fights but you dont talk about how he cherrypicked him. But when it comes to Floyd we want to LIE and claim that they were cherrypicks when they really werent?

All this talk about SRL's calculatedly built resume sounds like a tool to make excuses for why SRL wasnt as good as Floyd. Oh its because his opposition was better. To me, a good opponent is a good opponent. But your not going to be able to deal with every style. Thats what makes Floyd different. He will completely change his style in order to dominate you without being grazed. No fighter in history is as skilled as this man.

Not once did you mention SRL being a washed up dopehead at 30. While Floyd's prime will last forever. Do you dont realize that Floyd is the first fighter in history that is built to box and ONLY box? Without boxing he is nothing. He will be fighting when he's 47. Mentally he will be incomplete without it, and he will blow through his money. SRL was not born into a boxing family he started fighting at the age of 16 and without boxing he is alright. Its almost an insult to Mayweather to even compare him to SRL considering that, the lack of dedication to the sport, the disrespect he had for his body, his unimpressive skillset, the losses to guys he should have beaten.

Floyd is not SRL, he's basically a boxing wild-cat. He is the first fighter in history to truly be so natural that he fights like a cat, animal, ring creature. Im sorry but when looking at the facts, SRL aint SHIET compared to Floyd. I dont care if he went to heavyweight. Floyd is something else.

[fabie]

Muhammad Ali is the greatest and the most skillful of all boxers.

[MurkaMan]

Floyd's my favorite fighter in this era but that doesn't mean i ignore the facts nor, should you. SRL resume destroys every ones in this Era including Floyd. What fighter does floyd have in his resume that even compares to Wilfredo Benitez? SrL would have knocked JMM out. Hes a much bigger WW At 5"11 stronger and had much better footwork. Duran the "lightweight" as u call him actually went to middleweight and won the title. Is JMM ever going to do that? FLoyd 2 biggest HoF in his Resume where past there prime which i still give credit to Floyd but to a certain extent. Regardless if they ducked him in the past or not the fights didn't happen. Even if they did there not beating SRL resume. Pac would have been a nice addition including some other names but they didn't happen so you cant count them.

I dont care about SRL's resume. He fought in his own era. But if he fought Floyd's opponents, could he dominate them without being grazed like Floyd? No fighter in history can do what Floyd did. NONE. You say he would knock JMM out. Maybe so, but could he outbox him without being grazed? I dont care about his power, thats something no one can control. Im saying who is the better fighter, better skills?

SRL couldnt do SHIET. And your so focused on resumes because you want to avoid talking about skills. We already know SRL would NEVER outbox this variety of styles as well as Floyd did. But imagine how silly Floyd would make SRL's resume look. If SRL could beat them with his limited skillset, man they would be looking at Floyd as Boxing Jesus if he was fighting back then. Its a shame how people dont understand what their witnessing in Floyd. This man should be treated like royalty

You sit here and compare him to SR FKING L. Dude's skillset was AWFUL in comparison.

[MurkaMan]

Muhammad Ali is the greatest and the most skillful of all boxers.

No he isnt. He used to fade punches with his hands down. Made many mistakes, and was washed up at 37. Lost to Spinks who only had 7 fights. Floyd is in his prime at 37. First fighter even to be in his prime forever.

[Chuckguy]

Just because the op stated Floyd ducked PAC doesn't make it unbiased. This was a truly biased thread/ post by the op.
I enjoy watching Floyd fight and put on a clinic. But fact of the matter is that he has ducked his biggest challenges out there. I wanted to see him fight margs, a prime Mosley, PAC, Martinez, GGG and others. I truly believe that he can : could have beaten them all too but he is content with mediocrity and claiming he is the best when he hasn't fought the best at their best

[tangalog2200]

First thing I want to say is that Im not a f.lomo. I used to ride for Floyd and truly felt that Pac was ducking him until he demanded 100% of the revenue. After the Cotto fight, this fool said, 'Take The test' in front of millions of people when everyone knew that at that point the money, and not the test, was the issue.

However, I have grown to let that slide from the Ghost fight to the Canelo fight.

The way he beat them made me feel that ducking Pacman wont blind me, or anyone from all of these masterful performances. There is NO FIGHTER IN HISTORY that can take his resume, and make the adjustments needed in order to dominate them all without being grazed. What are you going to say? 'Der they would knock them out in one round'?

Well take their power away, could they make poetry out of these opponents like Floyd does? No fighter in history could do it, and based off of skills alone I think Flolyd may be the greatest most skilled fighter in the history of professional pugilism.

As far as him ducking, I only give him credit for ducking Pacman. One fighter.

He structured his career to get two money fights with Oscar and Gatti. He went directly to Oscar and Gatti, and people who hate him accused him of ducking ten or twenty fighters who were in between. Not cool at all. He retired after Oscar NOT to duck a bunch of easy fights, but because he felt that after fighting Oscar he had got everything he set out to get. Around that time he said he didnt even love boxing anymore. I think his best wins are JMM, Ortiz who was 164lbs and 24 yrs old, Mosley who at that time was coming off a great win, Ghost who he changed his entire style in order to beat, and Canelo who I felt was too big for him. It was a bonus fight, and he walked that giant down. Cotto was shot when Floyd fought him. He was destroyed by Pac and Margarita, and was coming off an unimpressive victory over a shot Margarita. Oscar was old and he was a money fight to me.

I remember when Ortiz beat Berto, he was number 2 at ww and was the best, strongest, most prime guy out there. Jim Lampley said no one at ww would fight him. Then when Floyd chose him, he said that Floyd was fighting him because he didnt throw any jabs at Berto, as if a jab is going to run Floyd away.

Floyd has BLATANTLY fought the absolute BEST at Golden boy at the time he fought them. But detractors pretend to ignore that and instead OVERexaggerrate about him picking them for a reason. When in actuallity, those opinions didnt matter. Because they were the BEST at the company at the time he fought them.



I feel that most people dont even know boxing, and dont base their fight predictions on any fight math. Instead base their predictions on hype; "Floyd is going to win because he's Floyd" "Ghost is going to lose because he's goofy, lame, and no one like that would beat Floyd"

Most people thought he would be shoulder rolling and countering Ghost on the inside. I knew it would be impossible, because Ghost is not the brawler you all marked him off as. He's a tall tactical pressure swarmer. His punches are long and too close together. Floyd clinched BOTH his arms on the inside 100% of the time they got close. He did that to take away the very thing I thought would cause Floyd problems. Floyd normally shoulder rolls on the inside, and I didnt know that he was smart enough to realize Ghosts inside game was a problem. Not only that, but Floyd used footwork to neutralize his height and longness. I didnt know he still had footwork. I didnt see ANY boxing writers, or any posters talk about those small adjustments he made. Because he has NEVER fought like that his entire career. After the fight, pretend-fans claimed, 'I knew it would play out like this. I knew Floyd would win'

The Ghost fight was boring as hell. Floyd threw two slow right hands a round and ran around the ring. But it impressed me how he changed his entire style to compensate for Ghost's awkwardness. He fights all of these different fighters and styles, and completely changes his style in order to dominate them all without being grazed. No fighter in history could do this. NONE.

Floyd is the only fighter in history that is truly BORN to box. SRL started boxing at 16 as a hobby and ended up being good at it. While Floyd was born into a boxing family and could naturally run 3 to 4 miles at the age of SEVEN.

SRL was washed up at 30 and lacked discipline and was a dopehead. Floyd is the only fighter in history to be in his prime at 37, and is programmed to be BEYOND discipline. I have never seen a fighter with this type of work ethic. Without boxing SRL is alright. Without boxing Floyd is doomed. Floyd is only built to box. He's not even built to function in the real world without it.

You had fighters like ALI who was washed up at 37 and losing to Spinks who only had seven fights.

I dont care if he ducked Pacman or not, thats not going to blind me from all this other stuff. Skills, dedication, versitility etc.

I guarantee you this, Floyd will be fighting in his PRIME at the age of 40 and older. When he retires he will have nothing to live for. Then he will just keep returning to the sport. No trolls please, I just want thoughts from nonbiased people only. Because when you start being HONEST About Floyd you may end up saying something you dont want to say; That he is the most SKILLED fighter in the HISTORY of fighting, in ALL.

gee, how dare you compare floyd over ali?

and over srl? because of floyd's 0?

tsk tsk tsk....

ali never cheated a foe like floyd did...nor did ali sucker punched an adversary...

you think cheating and sucker punching part of poetry?

[pacmanis1]

You say styles make fights. JMM is no different than any other opponents as I have stated in the post.

I dont care about the weight.

And as I have stated why would he fight all of those easy fights after fighting Oscar?

So if their is 10 elite fighters out there for me to fight, but Im done with the sport I should just fight just to be fighting?

All the other fights in between that could have happened, where not ducks just because he went directly to his money fights. And even without them on his resume, who cares?

His name SURPASSES every fighter in history based off of skills alone.

No fighter in history could take the guys that he DID fight, and do what he did to them.

A. Styles do make fights, see Ali/Foreman/Fraizer. Also JMM and Ortiz are completely different fighters.

B. Then you're a ****ty fan.

C. Because the best fight the best to prove their the GOAT.

D. No, you should retire. Not retire and then come back when everyone in the hottest division has gone to war with each other yet still make a LW move up and not even make weight.

E. Because true boxing fans don't base your greatness on your bank account but rather your resume and what you actually did, not what you could have, which is what this thread is about.

F. I never denied his skill, but you're asking to compare resumes.

G. I'll give you that one, I can't see any way Hearns is able to KO Ortiz as he's looking at the ref. And let's face it, there's no way SRL could beat JMM. And anyone who says SRR could win UD against the Ghost is just delusional.

[RetroSpeed05]

I dont care about SRL's resume. He fought in his own era. But if he fought Floyd's opponents, could he dominate them without being grazed like Floyd? No fighter in history can do what Floyd did. NONE. You say he would knock JMM out. Maybe so, but could he outbox him without being grazed? I dont care about his power, thats something no one can control. Im saying who is the better fighter, better skills?

SRL couldnt do SHIET. And your so focused on resumes because you want to avoid talking about skills. We already know SRL would NEVER outbox this variety of styles as well as Floyd did. But imagine how silly Floyd would make SRL's resume look. If SRL could beat them with his limited skillset, man they would be looking at Floyd as Boxing Jesus if he was fighting back then. Its a shame how people dont understand what their witnessing in Floyd. This man should be treated like royalty

You sit here and compare him to SR FKING L. Dude's skillset was AWFUL in comparison.

Floyds skill set is masterful to watch but resume does matter because how do you know Floyd will look like that against better fighters. Boxing in todays era today is watered down compared to back then. Floyd is one of the few i think will be good back then but not have his perfect 0. At 37 hes TBE out of any in that age but Young floyd never fought someone as fast as SRL in hands and feet, even Zab tagged him a lot. What do you think SRL would to Floyd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobeGwAOTZw