De La Hoya's greatness should up there with Roy Jones'

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  • Check_hooks
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    #21
    You can only compare "Fighter of the Decades" with other "Fighter of the Decades"

    I have Calzaghe ranked higher on my ATG list than Oscar

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      #22
      Originally posted by Fantastic One
      I know a certain group of fans are going to say "WTF!"

      I know I'm going to get responses like..........

      You ignant(closed fist fan boys are not allowed)
      Oh, I get it. This whole thing is because Oscar is of Mexican descent and Roy is black, right?

      Keep on keeping on with your lame little agenda.

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        #23
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        Once again what are Oscars best wins??he seems to get credit for LOSING more then actually winning
        And yet again, you're not seeing the overall picture son. But I'll bite.....now before you discredit one of them and then move the goal post after, just make sure you put the same standards with boxers you like. Example....Oh oh many people thought he lost this and that fight, no credit from me. Yet many people thought the same with Floyd/Castillo 1. Just be fair.


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        I'm not giving Oscar credit for losing.
        Last edited by Mr.Fantastic; 03-19-2014, 09:50 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Oh, I get it. This whole thing is because Oscar is of Mexican descent and Roy is black, right?

          Keep on keeping on with your lame little agenda.
          Mexicans hate Oscar more than black dudes. What you talking about Willis? But hey, you see my AV? I'm praising a black guy.

          They mad cause Oscar made Chavez quit and ****ed him up the second time. They believed the kid cut his eye excuse Chavez said.

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            #25
            Roy would beat oscar,, but oscar has a much more impressive list of opponents and way more big fights...

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              #26
              In terms of wins

              Oscar has a lot more quality wins vs true championship caliber opponents

              Oscar got screwed vs Tito and Shane rematch,, should have lost to sturm,,, but by far has a much better career than Roy


              Bottom line is oscar was headline super fights for over a decade,, jones was fighting Brannon, Byrd, Paz, and Lucas

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                #27
                How the hell can Roy be a pro and contender when oscar turned pro, yet oscar has more big fights, more money, more title fights, more PPv fights,



                All you really need to know is that Roy went to heavy and fought Ruiz,, oscar went to middle and fought sturm and Hopkins.... That basically shows you who was the true fighter

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  How the hell can Roy be a pro and contender when oscar turned pro, yet oscar has more big fights, more money, more title fights, more PPv fights,



                  All you really need to know is that Roy went to heavy and fought Ruiz,, oscar went to middle and fought sturm and Hopkins.... That basically shows you who was the true fighter
                  Ruiz may not be all that and is a weak champion but still, the fact that he went from Middleweight to HW and win a belt is damn impressive and a great/legendary feat.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Fantastic One
                    Ruiz may not be all that and is a weak champion but still, the fact that he went from Middleweight to HW and win a belt is damn impressive and a great/legendary feat.
                    No doubt, but my point is that oscar took on the kingpin Hopkins,, jones looked for an easy target,, he never fought Lennox Lewis

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      How the hell can Roy be a pro and contender when oscar turned pro, yet oscar has more big fights, more money, more title fights, more PPv fights,



                      All you really need to know is that Roy went to heavy and fought Ruiz,, oscar went to middle and fought sturm and Hopkins.... That basically shows you who was the true fighter
                      Because Oscar was the Golden Boy; Literally.

                      When he won the gold in the olympics that really set his career off; similar to SRL. Oscar also had the looks to match his skills. The women loved him and so did the media.

                      RJJ and Ward never got this type treatment post olympics; neither did Mayweather.

                      Oscar was really the last U.S boxer to win gold and hit it big immediately into his pro career

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