De La Hoya's greatness should up there with Roy Jones'

[sugarsmosley]

oscar is an atg, roy is a top tier atg IMO

[DLT]

..............um, NO

[Larry the boss]

Mr fantastic please list both fighters BEST WINS!!!! not losses or who they faced but fights they actually officially won

[5.4ever]

I grew up in the 90s... watching RJJ was a thing of beauty. He domited 99% of the rounds...

ODLH was exciting but he never really did anything like Ali,SRL,RJJ,Pac and FMJ have done... not int the same league imho

[Doctor_Tenma]

This is ban worthy

[Mr.Fantastic]

your argument of jones being hurt by continuing to fight on while shot holds no weight. the same could be said for ali, duran, ray robinson and most of the all time greats. nobody judges ali on his loses to berbick and holmes. just like no one should judge roy on his loses to green and these other guys.

because oscar decided against fighting on and roy didn't, doesn't help make oscar equal to roy.

Actually it does and it should. Just people being fan boys. You don't see me crying that Oscar should have 1-3 losses cause he wasn't prime for Pac/Floyd and out sized or robbed in others.

So if Jones were to fight and Stevenson and win, it shouldn't count right? Cause that just shows picking and choosing which is a ****ty standard.

Why?

You've had it explained to you before. You ignore it or use incredibly twisted logic to argue them.

No I haven't. Explain it in your words.

Jones won his biggest fights. Oscar didn't.

End of.

What are your standards for biggest fights?

oscar is an atg, roy is a top tier atg IMO

Why? Explain!

..............um, NO

Why? Explain?

Mr fantastic please list both fighters BEST WINS!!!! not losses or who they faced but fights they actually officially won

You're not seeing the OVERALL picture here though. You're a Floyd fan, you go by numbers. I posted a brief record of both boxers. Numbers don't lie right?

Don't you argue that Floyd is better than Pac, considering Pac has the better victories? I've seen you go the win/loss route before.

I grew up in the 90s... watching RJJ was a thing of beauty. He domited 99% of the rounds...

ODLH was exciting but he never really did anything like Ali,SRL,RJJ,Pac and FMJ have done... not int the same league imho

I will give you that, Roy did look very good dominating a lot of his rounds. Looked really pretty in doing so too with his speed. Speed does not equal skill though cause in all the fights I've seen of Roy and looking back in the past, I always thought he left himself too open at times.

I just explained on my OP on what Oscar did. Oscar at the time also did something great. Won titles in 6 divisions, something that has NEVER been done before.

This is ban worthy

Why? I provided a decent explanation.

[RapidFire180]

Oscar was a good fighter, but not ATG, Oscar lost EVERY big fight he was ever in. Jones was fighter of the decade in the 90s plus going fron Middleweight to HW is unprecedented. Jones legacy is cemented even if he is still fighting and of course hes a shell of his former. Jones simply wow'd fans and boxers alike with the things he was able to do. Jones definetly ranks above Oscar

[Mr.Fantastic]

Oscar was a good fighter, but not ATG, Oscar lost EVERY big fight he was ever in. Jones was fighter of the decade in the 90s plus going fron Middleweight to HW is unprecedented. Jones legacy is cemented even if he is still fighting and of course hes a shell of his former. Jones simply wow'd fans and boxers alike with the things he was able to do. Jones definetly ranks above Oscar

Oscar was a good fighter, but not ATG, Oscar lost EVERY big fight he was ever in

Totally wrong on the EVERY big fight.

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Jones was fighter of the decade in the 90s plus going fron Middleweight to HW is unprecedented.

Absolutely! As you can see in my op, I give props to that accomplishment.

Jones legacy is cemented even if he is still fighting and of course hes a shell of his former.

And losing every other fight. Legacy is getting tarnished but he's still an ATG regardless. I'm not saying if he loses the next 20 fights, he won't be ATG any more though.

Jones definetly ranks above Oscar

Never said he didn't.

[Nay_Sayer]

Wtf???????

[Larry the boss]

Once again what are Oscars best wins??he seems to get credit for LOSING more then actually winning