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  • Hougigo
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    #41
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    Don't you advocate the business side to boxing?

    Well this is the business of boxing coming into full effect. It looks like it was all about money to me. Keep Garcia as champ so he can make more $$$ in future potential fights down the line.
    I dont know how far he advocates boxing business wise.... but i'm pretty sure what he advocates is different from making sure Garcia wins because he's going to be raking in more money in the future.... pretty sure a large majority of us are against that here.

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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #42
      Originally posted by Hougigo
      I dont know how far he advocates boxing business wise.... but i'm pretty sure what he advocates is different from making sure Garcia wins because he's going to be raking in more money in the future.... pretty sure a large majority of us are against that here.
      He advocates boxing as a business when it comes to match making. I know that much.

      You can't pick and choose when you want to advocate the business side of boxing and when you don't.

      No matter how you cut it, as a fan, I can't relate to "boxing is a business" when it comes to matchmaking or when it comes to letting the money maker win (i.e. Chavez Jr-Vera I; Garcia-Herrera, etc).

      As a fan, I want to see the best available fighters fight the best competition and I want to see the right guy win come fight night.

      Keep that boxing is a business schit to yourself. If I was a manager or promoter, maybe... But as a fan, no.

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      • soul_survivor
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        #43
        You guys need to chill, it wasn't a robbery. Garcia and Harrera had a close fight, there was a point or 2 in it. It could have gone either, did Garcia get the decision cos he was the champ? Most probably, did he deserve the win? Yes, just as much as Harrera. Was a draw the best result for the situation? Yes, possibly.

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        • Hougigo
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          #44
          Originally posted by boxinggenius27
          he advocates boxing as a business when it comes to match making. I know that much.

          You can't pick and choose when you want to advocate the business side of boxing and when you don't.

          No matter how you cut it, as a fan, i can't relate to "boxing is a business" when it comes to matchmaking or when it comes to letting the money maker win (i.e. Chavez jr-vera i; garcia-herrera, etc).

          As a fan, i want to see the best available fighters fight the best competition and i want to see the right guy win come fight night.

          Keep that boxing is a business schit to yourself. If i was a manager or promoter, maybe... But as a fan, no.
          wtf???????

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #45
            Originally posted by Hougigo
            wtf???????
            Well, maybe if you didn't bud in, you wouldn't be so confused right now.

            Cuah knows what I'm talking about when it comes to the business of boxing. We've had this convo before.

            To put it simply, the Garcia robbery was the business side of boxing. Cuah has advocated the business side of boxing before. My thing is, you can't pick and choose when the business of boxing is good and when it's bad. It's the main reason there are so many problems in boxing now.
            Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 03-17-2014, 12:51 PM.

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            • Hougigo
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              #46
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              Well, maybe if you didn't butt in, you wouldn't be so confused right now.

              Cuah knows what I'm talking about when it comes to the business of boxing. We've had this convo before.

              To put it simply, the Garcia robbery was the business side of boxing. Cuah has advocated the business side of boxing before. My thing is, you can't pick and choose when the business of boxing is good and when it's bad. It's the main reason there are so many problems in boxing now.
              Yea, you're saying if you're in favor of making a fight that makes everybody money, the A side should win because he's the one making the business and it's alright......

              is that what you're saying?

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              • Fetta
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                #47
                This isnt the first time and it wont be the last time.

                In any sport where there is the "human element scoring" there will always be robberies.

                How can we change it? I honestly dont know

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                • BoxingGenius27
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Hougigo
                  Yea, you're saying if you're in favor of making a fight that makes everybody money, the A side should win because he's the one making the business and it's alright......

                  is that what you're saying?
                  How in the world did you come up with that?

                  I just got done saying I don't like the business side of boxing, then you turn around and make a statement where all of a sudden I've become the advocater to the business of boxing.

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                  • CubanGuyNYC
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    This isnt the first time and it wont be the last time.

                    In any sport where there is the "human element scoring" there will always be robberies.

                    How can we change it? I honestly dont know
                    I'm going to tell you how, but it's probably several years into the future. Technology will dramatically improve the sport. They'll develop a way of accurately gauging connected shots and even their relative force. None of this Compubox or Olympic-style scoring garbage. Judges might be eliminated altogether; or their role will be greatly diminished, perhaps to weigh-in solely on lesser regarded scoring criteria like ring generalship and defensive performance.

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                    • Hougigo
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      How in the world did you come up with that?

                      I just got done saying I don't like the business side of boxing, then you turn around and make a statement where all of a sudden I've become the advocater to the business of boxing.
                      OP said he mad that they robbed Herrera of a victory because Garcia would make them more money

                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      Don't you advocate the business side to boxing?

                      Well this is the business of boxing coming into full effect. It looks like it was all about money to me. Keep Garcia as champ so he can make more $$$ in future potential fights down the line.
                      He advocates fights that make good money be made, and then you said you can't pick and choose which side of business you advocate and it's all or nothing

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