Do you think Duran top 10 P4P list???

[GunStar]

Exactly my point. A guy who loses to just about every elite in his era is not top 10 p4p great.

Yup top 10 is really pushing it. If I put Duran in Top 10 list of all time, then I'm not showing respect to many of the great fighters that belongs over Duran. Top 30 is fair.

[JoartCC]

duran became lightweight champ in 72.

in 81 he became welter weight champ (after dominating 135 for 7 years) by beating sugar ray leonard. then he lost the rematch, moved to 154 got KOed by hearns. moved to 160 and gave a close fight to hagler.

that is not top notch p4p for you?

seriuosly I don't know how much more can you ask:

this would have been like marvin hagler not losing to leonard, moving up to light heavy faces michael spinks for the title and winning, but then losing in a rematch. then losing and winning a few fights before being KOed by holyfield at cruiser and finally giving a run for his money to tyson at heavyweight.

The point is, top 10 p4p are those guys who have impeccable slates and their victories resulted in unquestionable conquests.

A guy who loses to just about every nemesis he had in his career is not deserving of that spot.

Duran is HOF no doubt, but people here are a bit delusional if they think a guy who loses to a Hagler, get KTFO by Hearns and humiliated by Ray deserves top10 p4p.

[MickyHatton]

The point is, top 10 p4p are those guys who have impeccable slates and their victories resulted in unquestionable conquests.

A guy who loses to just about every nemesis he had in his career is not deserving of that spot.

Duran is HOF no doubt, but people here are a bit delusional if they think a guy who loses to a Hagler, get KTFO by Hearns and humiliated by Ray deserves top10 p4p.

OK fine fair point, name the ten fighters or more who deserve to be above him and why?

If he had stuck at Lightweight he could have gone on cemented his career relatively easily but he chose the harder path, Leonard (who he beat) Hagler and Hearns were boxing legends in their own right, but Duran took the gamble in moving up into there weight divisions and fighting at their level!

[El Invicto]

The point is, top 10 p4p are those guys who have impeccable slates and their victories resulted in unquestionable conquests.

A guy who loses to just about every nemesis he had in his career is not deserving of that spot.

Duran is HOF no doubt, but people here are a bit delusional if they think a guy who loses to a Hagler, get KTFO by Hearns and humiliated by Ray deserves top10 p4p.

From reading some of your posts, you seem like a person whom remembers some of the greatest fighters for their losses, not their conquests. Do you remember Tito as a great welter or a fighter whom lost to a veteran middleweight in B-hop? Do you remember RJJ as a great Middleweight or as the fighter whom was knocked out twice at 175? How about Tyson, do you remember him as a great at all? He lost everytime he was faced with adversity. When remembering ones legacy, one must remember how great they were, concentrating on the downfall of ones career will only tarnish a fighters legacy.

[wmute]

The point is, top 10 p4p are those guys who have impeccable slates and their victories resulted in unquestionable conquests.

A guy who loses to just about every nemesis he had in his career is not deserving of that spot.

Duran is HOF no doubt, but people here are a bit delusional if they think a guy who loses to a Hagler, get KTFO by Hearns and humiliated by Ray deserves top10 p4p.

no the point is that if you consider the following as the nemesis of a natural 135 past his prime

1) a top 5 welter
2) a top 10 welter, top5 jr middle
3) a top 3 middleweight

than the lightweight is a ****ing legend

sugar ray robinson did not square the ring with a middleweight who was the hgeviaer version of leonard, did not share the ring with a lightheavy woh was the bigger version of hagler. in fact sugar ray robinson, fought less than great middleweights for the most part, had only one fight at 175 which he lost, so i guess robinson is not p4p material, by your standards

just name 10 fighters who you think are better than duran p4p, and we can go on with this, otherewise you are not making sense.

[oldgringo]

No point in debating with this guy...

People STILL don't factor in that Duran was a lot smaller than these guys he lost to.

[baya]

No point in debating with this guy...

People STILL don't factor in that Duran was a lot smaller than these guys he lost to.

yet you continue, pendejo .... learn from baya, just quit. like duran

[jabsRstiff]

No point in debating with this guy...

People STILL don't factor in that Duran was a lot smaller than these guys he lost to.

Not to mention......older, & with 80 fights under his belt.

[oldgringo]

Yeah I guess I should just let it go.

Tough to see Duran get no love though.

[JoartCC]

Not to mention......older, & with 80 fights under his belt.

Excuses, mere whining and arguments which hold little value.

In return to your argument.

Then Duran is nothing more but a fake because elites overcome their obstacles and not be overwhelmed by it.

Duran got overwhelmed by his obstacles.

I may be a bit harsh but I'm sorry.