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  • #91
    Originally posted by V.WEBB View Post
    Absolutely. And here's the thing. Had he picked Khan, they would have supported Khan up until the fight. Then Khan gets whitewashed by a 37 year old and they diss him for even fighting Khan in the first place. What is going to be even funnier is when Khan fights again and looks like crap.

    In no scenario would they support a JWW with no quality wins at ww getting a fight with the lineal ww champion.

    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Well I've wanted to see Manny Pacquaio and Sergio Martinez get the fight for years. I guess they were British too?

    It's ok thought because Floyd can keep fighting these flat footed guys that make him look good and you can keep eating it up. TBE!
    Completely different situation that has no bearing on this discussion as you are aware.

    If it makes you feel better to diminish floyd by questioning his opposition-cool. I agree Khan has tools that would present a different challenge for floyd.

    What you wont admit is his lack of a sturdy chin and the inability to summon those skills when needed is why he isn't getting this fight. He simply hasn't done what is necessary to earn this fight where the flat footed guys you complain about have.

    How about you start being honest about this.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Come on, that's just not true.

      Seems pretty split on that front.
      I don't recall many who've said that Maidana is a harder style for Floyd. I put a small list of people in my previous post who said the opposite - and that was off the top of my head.

      Who said Maidana has a more challenging style - maybe Brandon Rios?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by V.WEBB View Post
        I agree with you that JLC was better than MM is now. No doubt. But I see some similarities in their fight game. The pressure, the aggression. I mainly brought that up because people always say how Floyd "lost" the first fight and that kind of style gives him or has given him problems. Now, it's just like the argument many used in the past just doesn't apply anymore although Floyd is knocking on 40's door. It has now shifted to "Floyd doesn't want to fight boxers...or fighters with speed..". Hadn't heard that prior to him deciding not to face Amir Khan.
        They have some similarities.

        Castillo has a lot more tools, much better inside game and all round skills.

        That said, Mayweather's well passed his prime and Maidana's going to push the pace, the first time in a while someone will force the fight for the entire time.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by V.WEBB View Post
          Ok, the speed aspect. But the "boxing", naw they didn't. And it's APPLES and ORANGES between a Manny Pacquaio and a freaking Amir Khan.

          Yeah I know. But as is often the case with Floyd, we're having to make do with oranges when we really wanted apples.

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          • #95
            Please. So because Floyd is that great, he can't fight someone who proved himself at welterweight, recently came off a big win, and currently holds a title belt? Please.

            Most haters lost bets betting against Floyd so they usually go on a rant.
            So now they don't care for his choices cause he wins too often.

            Nobody is forced to watch him fight unless you're betting on his opponent to win. It's that plain and simple.

            Bottom line is both fans and non-fans alike will pay to see Floyd vs Maidana.

            .

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            • #96
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              They have some similarities.

              Castillo has a lot more tools, much better inside game and all round skills.

              That said, Mayweather's well passed his prime and Maidana's going to push the pace, the first time in a while someone will force the fight for the entire time.
              Agree. How do you think MM's conditioning will hold up?

              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              Yeah I know. But as is often the case with Floyd, we're having to make do with oranges when we really wanted apples.
              Happy he passed on that orange that we know as Amir King Khan.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                I don't recall many who've said that Maidana is a harder style for Floyd. I put a small list of people in my previous post who said the opposite - and that was off the top of my head.

                Who said Maidana has a more challenging style - maybe Brandon Rios?
                I've seen lots.

                Can't remember too many but I know Austin Trout, Shane Mosley, Julio Diaz, Larry Merchant, Dan Rafael, those trainers from Dan Goosens gym (I think) that Ellie Seckbach always interviews. I've seen plenty but these are just top of my head.

                And I'll echo what you said, that's just off the top my head.

                Point being, it's definitely split and not "pretty much all of them" consider Khan a harder fight.

                I've probably seen more people who consider Maidana a better fight.

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                • #98
                  Not sure why this needed its own thread. I have yet to see anybody really come out and say that Maidana has anything but a punchers chance.
                  People seem to recognize that while Chino deserves the fight based on his recent run, he really has no shot against Floyd.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by V.WEBB View Post
                    Agree. How do you think MM's conditioning will hold up?
                    He'll likely be in the shape of his career.

                    But I feel he'll fade at some point but he always get's a second wind and can be dangerous late.

                    What I like about this fight is Maidana will force the fight throughout, that's a style Mayweather hasn't seen since Hatton. He's willing to get rough and dirty and that should spell some entertainment IMO.

                    I see a lot of people saying "Floyd always fights this style" but I don't see it. Canelo and Guererro aren't pressure fighters, neither is Ortiz really and obviously Mosley isn't. The closest thing is Cotto and he gave Floyd a problem or two

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      I've seen lots.

                      Can't remember too many but I know Austin Trout, Shane Mosley, Julio Diaz, Larry Merchant, Dan Rafael, those trainers from Dan Goosens gym (I think) that Ellie Seckbach always interviews. I've seen plenty but these are just top of my head.

                      And I'll echo what you said, that's just off the top my head.

                      Point being, it's definitely split and not "pretty much all of them" consider Khan a harder fight.

                      I've probably seen more people who consider Maidana a better fight.
                      That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about whose style is more difficult.

                      The common thread is Maidana has "earned" the fight - whatever that means. Whilst Khan has a more difficult style for Mayweather.

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