Comments Thread For: Ward's Trainer: Golovkin-Chavez = Picking and Choosing

[hitking]

Considering that Gennady is overseas in a period of bereavement, and considering that his April fight has been cancelled, and considering that Abel Sanchez himself said GGG isn't even willing to discuss boxing at this point to determine when his next bout will be until his 40 day bereavement period, considering that all this talk about Arum wanting GGG to fight Chavez Jr came out very recently, can someone please tell me where on earth it quotes Gennady Golovkin or Abel Sanchez saying, yes we will consider JCC? Can anyone show me a link or a post anywhere? Cause as far as I know this talk has all been from Bob Arum and JCC.

The article says very clearly, if he fights JCC its picking and choosing. No one from GGG's camp has said anything about moving up weight to fight JCC anytime soon, if at all.. ******s

This clown ass dude.

[KJB]

If all goes accordingly, Golovkin will fight Ward some time next year. How is that a duck? What you haters gotta say now?

Ward is going to take him to school and spank his ass. That's what I have to say.

[kafkod]

I just find it sad when fans do this X ducking Y thing - Hunter saying GGGs team are 'picking and choosing' is simply absurd, since of course this is what all promoters and managers do, Wards included. To step from 'picking and choosing' to 'ducking' however is a sign of how petty many posters on boxing forums have become.

No real arguing with it though - people trying to push an agenda (or just plain trolling) can't be reasoned with, and stooping to calling other fighters the same ridiculous names just exacerbates the problem...NSB is almost unreadable at times.

Boxing fans are becoming more and more frustrated with the multiple world titles and sanctioning bodies, extra weight divisions, and power struggles between rival promotors and TV companies preventing the best matches from being made.
We are looking for some-one to blame, I guess, and the fighters themselves are the most obvious targets.

[Porter's Dad]

Just read the first page of comments, and looks like everyone missed the point Hunter was making, or just plain didn't read the article.

It was that Team GGG are saying they don't want to fight Ward yet because they're not ready to move up - but when the option of a Chavez fight comes up, suddenly they are suddenly willing to do so. The implication being that it's not the weight(class) that's the issue, it's the fighter. Which is a fair point.

What I don't get is where this ******ed, artificial beef has started between Ward fans and GGG fans. Why does everyone get so bent out of shape? Both guys are excellent fighters and are carving their own careers. One day they will meet and Ward will almost certainly shut GGG down, though there's no shame in that.

Stop whining

[secondsin]

Just read the first page of comments, and looks like everyone missed the point Hunter was making, or just plain didn't read the article.

It was that Team GGG are saying they don't want to fight Ward yet because they're not ready to move up - but when the option of a Chavez fight comes up, suddenly they are suddenly willing to do so. The implication being that it's not the weight(class) that's the issue, it's the fighter. Which is a fair point.

What I don't get is where this ******ed, artificial beef has started between Ward fans and GGG fans. Why does everyone get so bent out of shape? Both guys are excellent fighters and are carving their own careers. One day they will meet and Ward will almost certainly shut GGG down, though there's no shame in that.

Stop whining

It's more like GGG haters then Ward fans.

[MDPopescu]

Provide a link where Ward says he'll go to 75 for anybody or STFU.

I'm getting tired by your self-sufficient, ****** postings here... You shut the fuck up and read...



http://www.b o x i n g n e w s 24.com/2012/09/andre-ward-says-he-could-move-up-to-175-soon/#LimXDbdKFIOClrOi.99

"Andre Ward says he could move up to 175 soon"
September 23rd, 2012 By Dan Ambrose

WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward revealed that he's considering a move up to light heavyweight real soon. He feels that it's tough for him to get big fights at super middleweight now, and will be speaking to his team about a move up in weight to 175.

Ward told Jim Lampley on his HBO Fight Game show last Saturday night "I don't think so [getting a fight with Sergio Martinez] for the moment due to the weight difference and size difference. All the talk from the Martinez camp is that Ward has to come down to 160. I think they mentioned 164. But I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to be at super middleweight. For me to get down to 160 or 164, I wouldn't be any good at it. It wouldn't be good for my career.

So at the moment I don't realistically think that fight [against Sergio Martinez] is going to be made. I think I would be very strong at the weight [175]. I'm not even the biggest super middleweight, so I know the fighters at light heavyweight would be even bigger. But I know the ideal situation is to go to 175 and not come back down. There's not a lot of options at 168. So in the coming weeks my team and I need to put our heads together and get creative in terms of what's going to be next.”

... Most of the top super middleweights will soon be at light heavyweight anyway, so Ward would simply be getting there a little than them. But at 175, Ward could dominate for a long time because the talent pool is so-so. (...) Ambrose concluded back in Sep. 2012...


... But in 2013, Stevenson and Kovalev exploded at 175 and Andre Ward suddenly "forgot" about all his big career plans at 175... Now Ward is filling his time by calling Golovkin out. That's the actual Ward's "story"...

[secondsin]

I'm getting tired by your self-sufficient, ****** postings here... You shut the fuck up and read...



http://www.b o x i n g n e w s 24.com/2012/09/andre-ward-says-he-could-move-up-to-175-soon/#LimXDbdKFIOClrOi.99

LOL! Ether!

[HeroBando]

Just read the first page of comments, and looks like everyone missed the point Hunter was making, or just plain didn't read the article.

It was that Team GGG are saying they don't want to fight Ward yet because they're not ready to move up - but when the option of a Chavez fight comes up, suddenly they are suddenly willing to do so. The implication being that it's not the weight(class) that's the issue, it's the fighter. Which is a fair point.

What I don't get is where this ******ed, artificial beef has started between Ward fans and GGG fans. Why does everyone get so bent out of shape? Both guys are excellent fighters and are carving their own careers. One day they will meet and Ward will almost certainly shut GGG down, though there's no shame in that.

Stop whining

How can you call it a cherrypick when your guy, bigger and much higher rated, lobbied for the same fight and praised the **** out of Chavez on hbo? Its just like Ward putting down Pac for the Dlh win, not an ounce of self reflection

[Porter's Dad]

How can you call it a cherrypick when your guy, bigger and much higher rated, lobbied for the same fight and praised the **** out of Chavez on hbo? Its just like Ward putting down Pac for the Dlh win, not an ounce of self reflection

Again, people are missing the point that Hunter is making. He's not dissing as Chavez as an opponent, because the article actually finishes with him saying he wants Ward to fight them both (Jr AND GGG). He's just saying that it's awfully convenient that staying at 160 isn't that important when a Jr fight is available, as opposed to a Ward fight. It's not a great point but it's a fair point.

[Daddy T]

ward v chavez (which we all know is the fight ward really wants ... he gets pissed whenever anybody else ...eg froch/GGG mention fighting jnr) = boring one sided hugfest ending in a predictable UD for ward.

Chavez v GGG = entertaining toe to toe battle which though there is a clear favorite could go either way, especially with a motivated chavez.


I know which one I (and I'm sure most fans) would rather see.