vasyl lomachenko hypejob?

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  • -Kev-
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    #51
    He was being touted as surpassing SRR, being on par with Rigondeaux, and was the favorite to beat Salido in only 2 pro fights. Overhyped is an understatement.

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #52
      hype job? no. overhyped??? severely

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      • -PBP-
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        #53
        Not a hypejob. Just in over his head. He will be back. They just need to go back to the drawing board and go through the development process that all professionals need to go through.

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #54
          Originally posted by PBP
          Not a hypejob. Just in over his head. He will be back. They just need to go back to the drawing board and go through the development process that all professionals need to go through.
          yea i dunno where this idea young fighters have that u can get by on half lessons and let hype carry u comes from. is it the floyd mayweather effect? i dunno. the same thing with broner. these young guys are just not doing it right nowadays. i guess the money is more important than mastering your craft.

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          • NEETzsche
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            #55
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            yea i dunno where this idea young fighters have that u can get by on half lessons and let hype carry u comes from. is it the floyd mayweather effect? i dunno. the same thing with broner. these young guys are just not doing it right nowadays. i guess the money is more important than mastering your craft.
            you can't blame loma for being ambitious. he was right to be confident, considering his legendary amateur background. but his management and promoters should have spotted his current limitations and reeled him in. blame them for being overeager to cash in on him.

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #56
              Originally posted by NEETzsche
              you can't blame loma for being ambitious. he was right to be confident, considering his legendary amateur background. but his management and promoters should have spotted his current limitations and reeled him in. blame them for being overeager to cash in on him.
              thats true, young men in general are all headstrong with a sense of invincibility. now when u are constantly being told you are the best by everyone around u?? overdrive. good post.

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              • -PBP-
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                #57
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                yea i dunno where this idea young fighters have that u can get by on half lessons and let hype carry u comes from. is it the floyd mayweather effect? i dunno. the same thing with broner. these young guys are just not doing it right nowadays. i guess the money is more important than mastering your craft.
                They saw what guys like Rigondeaux and Ioka did and thought, oh well, we can do it too. But even Rigondeaux as successful as he has been is far from being a seasoned pro even after 13 fights. He can still develop an inside game and diversify his offensive attack. Even Mayweather continued to add new wrinkles to his game after 20, 30 and 40 fights throughout his career.

                Boxing can be a lucrative successful career or a quick cash grab. But if you want a long career you need to come up and develop the proper way.

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                • MRCHOKEaMF
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                  #58
                  i'll get this started....

                  The guy was hyped up like he was the next Mayweather, and this guy is not a Mayweather, meaning he's not gonna beat everybody. Thats asking for too much to expect this kid to be unbeatable. At least Broner won 3 championships before his first loss, at least give the guy some creampuffs his first 30 fights like GGG. On here he was atg now he already has as many losses as Broner.
                  nah he was pretty good, he mis-judged the stamina it would take in a 12 rounder and used incorrect pace. He's gonna be a champion all the way up to WW just give him some time this is why prospects get put in with different lower skilled fighters to show them different styles to prepare for. And Salido showed him alot, dirty fighters, holders, guys that are gonna make you use your head to win and take more than physical tools. He's gonna have a good career. And he didnt have any excuses which I really liked.

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                  • Kagami Taiga
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    They saw what guys like Rigondeaux and Ioka did and thought, oh well, we can do it too. But even Rigondeaux as successful as he has been is far from being a seasoned pro even after 13 fights. He can still develop an inside game and diversify his offensive attack. Even Mayweather continued to add new wrinkles to his game after 20, 30 and 40 fights throughout his career.

                    Boxing can be a lucrative successful career or a quick cash grab. But if you want a long career you need to come up and develop the proper way.
                    i forgot about ioka. that kid is something. difference between him and loma is he developed as a pro. he was never really a blue chip amateur. his family specifically developed him for a pro game since day one and it shows. its hard to blame a fighter for going after glory but he wasnt ready. i mean sure it says a lot that he was able to just come up short against a fighter and champ like salido in only his second fight. but that version of salido he fought is just about done, and even at his best salido was never a great fighter. is loma world class?? def imo. is he elite??? far from it. he has a looooong way to go.

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                    • HanzGruber
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                      Which part? The PDL schooling? Or Salido or both? I can understand if you disagree with something that hasn't taken place but to say PDL didn't clearly beat Broner is just straight nuthuggery.
                      He clearly beat ponce. And i like how you're making this thread about broner lol. Besides how is he a hype job if 90% of the people hate him?

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