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  • J The UnBiased
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    #51
    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
    come on j, you can do better man
    I give the man his credit, I just don't act like he beat a Cotto that was 100%. Did he?

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    • J The UnBiased
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      #52
      Originally posted by chepboxingking
      Lol, dude chill out. I'm not making excuses just pointing out facts. He was offered the fight but declined due to the contract weight. That's all buddy
      And knowingly left out the context, play on player lol

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      • Augustane
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        #53
        Originally posted by chepboxingking
        Full fledged? Remember why Martinez is fighting at 160?? After the pau William fight he couldn't land a big fight at 154 so he jumped at the chance to fight pavlik at 160. It wasn't like Martinez couldn't make 154 anymore. He could still make 154 right now. Moreover, can you name a fight where Martinez came in at the middle limit of 160 And not below? He comes in 159-158 for all his fights so he's clearly not a "full fledged" middle weight fighter.
        Martinez cannot make 154 anymore. Let's be real. His age, inability to use his leg, and frame won't allow it at this point.

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        • sugarsmosley
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          #54
          Originally posted by Augustane
          Martinez cannot make 154 anymore. Let's be real. His age, inability to use his leg, and frame won't allow it at this point.
          i think he could... but he would be drained. I know he would drain himself to fight floyd, then again who wouldnt

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          • chepboxingking
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            #55
            Originally posted by J The UnBiased
            So you're saying that Sergio never grew into the weight class? Sergio could make 154 pounds in 2014?
            OK, you'll answer this question yourself. This fight with cotto is takin place at 159. For most his fights he comes in at 158-159. If a PAC or Floyd fight was offered at 154, think he won't drop an extra 4-5 pounds? Remember he he called out Floyd and offered a 80-20 split? Think that's not on the table anymore?

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            • chepboxingking
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              #56
              Originally posted by Augustane
              Martinez cannot make 154 anymore. Let's be real. His age, inability to use his leg, and frame won't allow it at this point.
              I agree, it'll be harder for him now with all the Injuries but with 3-4 more money months notice like he got for this fight, I strongly believe he can.

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              • J The UnBiased
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                #57
                Originally posted by chepboxingking
                OK, you'll answer this question yourself. This fight with cotto is takin place at 159. For most his fights he comes in at 158-159. If a PAC or Floyd fight was offered at 154, think he won't drop an extra 4-5 pounds? Remember he he called out Floyd and offered a 80-20 split? Think that's not on the table anymore?
                Here, just in case you forgot

                http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...her-fight.html

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                • radiotracer
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ronanknox
                  Manny has great movement and fast hands just like martinez ???
                  cotto hits harder but not the same speed as bradley. that's the whole reason for sparring partners they can be abused.

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                  • chepboxingking
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by J The UnBiased
                    ....this article states and support exactly what I've said that he can make 154. Given this was some yrs back. I don't understand your point in case by providing this article. Please elaborate

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                    • J The UnBiased
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by chepboxingking
                      ....this article states and support exactly what I've said that he can make 154. Given this was some yrs back. I don't understand your point in case by providing this article. Please elaborate
                      Directed towards you alluding that Floyd wouldn't fight him at 154, Manny outright refused and asked him to make 147.

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