Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"
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you think those guys are ATG, but not manny. and even if he manny was a 5 division champ, that would make him ATG... hello wake up dude, you seem to think paper belts mean everything. in 20 years we will look at these dudes resumes, forget about the weights, how old they were, how good they looked before. we will see HOF name after HOF name after HOF name. manny's victories and rise to the top of the sport is what make him great. you are in denial.... just admit it. its a fact that those guys are ATG.Ok for the last time. Manny did not win a title at 118, 126, or 140.
He is a legit 5 weight world champion. Where he does not measure up to the atgs of this era which are:
Floyd
Roy
Bhop
Toney
Tito
Oscar
Shane
Is that each of those fighters dominated their divisions they didn't go up and win a few titles and never defend them. Say what you want about them they defended their titles successfully for many years before moving up.
PAC has never dominated a division name one where he had more than 2 title defenses. PAC is hof but ATG based on my criteria he is not.Comment
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How did Shane dominate 147 or 154, how did Oscar dominate 147 or 154 or 160,Toney didnt domiante much after Roy clowned him either, Manny was lineal at 126 and 140 didnt win a world title but beat the man who beat the man..and Manny never even fought at 118 so why mention it?Ok for the last time. Manny did not win a title at 118, 126, or 140.
He is a legit 5 weight world champion. Where he does not measure up to the atgs of this era which are:
Floyd
Roy
Bhop
Toney
Tito
Oscar
Shane
Is that each of those fighters dominated their divisions they didn't go up and win a few titles and never defend them. Say what you want about them they defended their titles successfully for many years before moving up.
PAC has never dominated a division name one where he had more than 2 title defenses. PAC is hof but ATG based on my criteria he is not.Comment
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You have no idea what your talking about,Ok for the last time. Manny did not win a title at 118, 126, or 140.
He is a legit 5 weight world champion. Where he does not measure up to the atgs of this era which are:
Floyd
Roy
Bhop
Toney
Tito
Oscar
Shane
Is that each of those fighters dominated their divisions they didn't go up and win a few titles and never defend them. Say what you want about them they defended their titles successfully for many years before moving up.
PAC has never dominated a division name one where he had more than 2 title defenses. PAC is hof but ATG based on my criteria he is not.
1. didnt say anything about 118,,, its 112,,, and yes manny was a belt there
2. he beat lineal champs barrera and hatton and won both times in devastating fashion, also beat the 130 champ jmm in the 2nd fight
3. Yes some where paper titles, but every fighter has those,,, manny beating diaz and margs for belts were kinda meaningless, just like when floyd beat gatti,,
4. If you dont think manny is an ATG, then your really DKSAB,Comment
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How did Shane dominate 147 or 154, how did Oscar dominate 147 or 154 or 160,Toney didnt domiante much after Roy clowned him either, Manny was lineal at 126 and 140 didnt win a world title but beat the man who beat the man..and Manny never even fought at 118 so why mention it?You have no idea what your talking about,
1. didnt say anything about 118,,, its 112,,, and yes manny was a belt there
2. he beat lineal champs barrera and hatton and won both times in devastating fashion, also beat the 130 champ jmm in the 2nd fight
3. Yes some where paper titles, but every fighter has those,,, manny beating diaz and margs for belts were kinda meaningless, just like when floyd beat gatti,,
4. If you dont think manny is an ATG, then your really DKSAB,
both yall exactly on the money.... good posts. clearly if he believes shane tito and oscar are ATG and not manny... well lmfao i dont think anyone should bother. shane is my 2nd fav fighter ever and I know hes not an ATG. his best wins are his 2x over oscar (2nd one is debatable) and the rest of his resume is mayorga,vargas, and margs. he shared the ring with greats but didnt beat most of them. tito, oscar, and shane are all VERY GOOD hofComment
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