Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Toney is not an ATG and i do not even see an argument for it to be honest

Toney is ATG based on skills alone, and his resume of being champ at 160,168, and cruiser, plus a nice run at heavy,,, He is an ATG and his wins over a prime nunn and mccallum solidify him for me... Winning titles and having long reigns is great but is not the only criteria for ATG,, Burley is an ATG but his title reigns are nothing

Ward?? far to early to call him an ATG man,far to early

True, too early on that,, i think he is on the way, he is already a HOFer IMO, He will clean out the rest of 168 over the next year or so and then eventually will make his way up to 175 and i think he wins titles there as well.. But yes it is abit early for him

[Ivansmamma]

This term seems to get thrown around a lot on here, but there is a difference between ATG and Hall of famers.. All time greats are far and few

Hopkins
Mayweather
Manny
Roy Jones(yea he is still active)
Wlad



IMO these are the only active all time greats and it was and is an honor to have witnessed them

Good list. I would maybe take away wlad and marquez is borderline to get in.

[sugarsmosley]

floyd
manny
b-hop
RJJ

are the only certified ATG. i do not think wlad is an atg. JMM and toney are debatable

[sugarsmosley]

Toney is ATG based on skills alone, and his resume of being champ at 160,168, and cruiser, plus a nice run at heavy,,, He is an ATG and his wins over a prime nunn and mccallum solidify him for me... Winning titles and having long reigns is great but is not the only criteria for ATG,, Burley is an ATG but his title reigns are nothing


True, too early on that,, i think he is on the way, he is already a HOFer IMO, He will clean out the rest of 168 over the next year or so and then eventually will make his way up to 175 and i think he wins titles there as well.. But yes it is abit early for him

ward is a future ATG, no doubt about that. so is lomachenko think im jumping the gun? lol

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ward is a future ATG, no doubt about that. so is lomachenko think im jumping the gun? lol

if lomochenko beats salido-- he is the GOAT no doubt

[#1Assassin]

james toney is an atg hands down.

michael nunn, mike mccallum, vassily jirov, reggie johnson, iran barkley, evander holyfiled.. etc

thats an excellent resume and there are plenty of other solid wins on it as well. i know he has plenty of losses too, some against less than spectacular opposition but so does roberto duran. doesnt change the fact that when they turn up there are but a handful of fighters in history that can compete let alone beat them which they both proved on several occasions.

(btw im not saying toney is comparable to duran in terms of greatness, just used him to make my point).


marquez is clearly an ATG, not even going to argue that. how is one of the three or four best mexican fighters in history not an ATG?

[Citizen Koba]

This term seems to get thrown around a lot on here, but there is a difference between ATG and Hall of famers.. All time greats are far and few

Hopkins
Mayweather
Manny
Roy Jones(yea he is still active)
Wlad



IMO these are the only active all time greats and it was and is an honor to have witnessed them

I think you just about nailed it. Can't think of any to add, and dspite RJJ having boxed way beyond when he shoulda hung them up, it doesn't detract from what he was at his best. Couldn't take any of those names away either. These are the guys who in 30 or 40 yars time are gonna be talked about as the legends of this era IMO no matter the s#it that gets talked about them now.

It's always hard to say what the fans of the future will say about todays guys, and not our place to judge, but I'd say all these guys (nearing the end of their careers) tick all the boxes almost irrespective of what happens from here on in.

[bojangles1987]

ward is a future ATG, no doubt about that. so is lomachenko think im jumping the gun? lol

There's plenty of doubt about Ward. Most of it based to his inactivity and reluctance to seize the opportunities which could prove his greatness since winning the Super Six. He needs to get going and make up for lost time.

And to those who don't think so, James Toney is definitely an ATG. Definitely. Marquez should be too IMO.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Ok this is my 2nd and final list

manny
floyd
jones
toney
hopkins

jmm and wlad are close but no cigar,,,

[Ivansmamma]

ward is a future ATG, no doubt about that. so is lomachenko think im jumping the gun? lol

If he cleans out 175 maybe.