Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"
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i feel ya mang since the super six ward has lacked the big time performances... he had the two wins at 168 over dawson and rod (OK wins). but i feel like he will unify the belts again... beat groves/froch winner, steiglitz move up... and dominate there for a long time. he has the ability to beat anyone in his path which makes me think that.There's plenty of doubt about Ward. Most of it based to his inactivity and reluctance to seize the opportunities which could prove his greatness since winning the Super Six. He needs to get going and make up for lost time.
And to those who don't think so, James Toney is definitely an ATG. Definitely. Marquez should be too IMO.
also you guys are probably right, im a younger dude who didnt get to watch toney in his prime and most have a bad taste in there mouth from his recent performances. its similar to RJJ, who of course is an ATG but has stuck around too long.Comment
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PAC and woad are not ATG by my standardsThis term seems to get thrown around a lot on here, but there is a difference between ATG and Hall of famers.. All time greats are far and few
Hopkins
Mayweather
Manny
Roy Jones(yea he is still active)
Wlad
IMO these are the only active all time greats and it was and is an honor to have witnessed themComment
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manny is not?????? wlad i can agree with, but manny is by far a lock for ATG,,,
titles at 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147
Destroyed Kingpin Barrera
First guy to ever stop morales
beat JMM
Destroyed hatton for lineal title
destroyed Cotto
Robbed vs undefeated bradley
Manny's last few years have not been up to par for an ATG, but dont discount all the success he had from 1998-2009
You have to be a complete idiot to boxing to not consider manny an ATGComment
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Two of those listed are true craftsmen of the sport. Two have brought a physicality that is difficult to rival. One, could be the most successful one dimensional boxer in the history of the sport.
If death creeps slowly enough upon me that I see it approaching, I know with certainty, that my mind will wonder back with dreadful regret to the so many wasted hours I spent watching Wladimir Klitschko.
I admire his tenacity, his perseverance, and his professionalism. But that man is not an all time great. He's not in the ball park. He's not even playing the same game.Comment
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Ok for the last time. Manny did not win a title at 118, 126, or 140.manny is not?????? wlad i can agree with, but manny is by far a lock for ATG,,,
titles at 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147
Destroyed Kingpin Barrera
First guy to ever stop morales
beat JMM
Destroyed hatton for lineal title
destroyed Cotto
Robbed vs undefeated bradley
Manny's last few years have not been up to par for an ATG, but dont discount all the success he had from 1998-2009
You have to be a complete idiot to boxing to not consider manny an ATG
He is a legit 5 weight world champion. Where he does not measure up to the atgs of this era which are:
Floyd
Roy
Bhop
Toney
Tito
Oscar
Shane
Is that each of those fighters dominated their divisions they didn't go up and win a few titles and never defend them. Say what you want about them they defended their titles successfully for many years before moving up.
PAC has never dominated a division name one where he had more than 2 title defenses. PAC is hof but ATG based on my criteria he is not.Comment
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