Who are the current active fighters you would consider "ATG'S?"

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ivansmamma
    If he cleans out 175 maybe.
    yeah,, he needs to have some success and a nice reign at 175, and i think he would be an ATG,, especially if he can grab titles at 175 and keep his undefeated record intact

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    • sugarsmosley
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      #22
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      There's plenty of doubt about Ward. Most of it based to his inactivity and reluctance to seize the opportunities which could prove his greatness since winning the Super Six. He needs to get going and make up for lost time.

      And to those who don't think so, James Toney is definitely an ATG. Definitely. Marquez should be too IMO.
      i feel ya mang since the super six ward has lacked the big time performances... he had the two wins at 168 over dawson and rod (OK wins). but i feel like he will unify the belts again... beat groves/froch winner, steiglitz move up... and dominate there for a long time. he has the ability to beat anyone in his path which makes me think that.


      also you guys are probably right, im a younger dude who didnt get to watch toney in his prime and most have a bad taste in there mouth from his recent performances. its similar to RJJ, who of course is an ATG but has stuck around too long.

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      • Brandish
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        #23
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        This term seems to get thrown around a lot on here, but there is a difference between ATG and Hall of famers.. All time greats are far and few

        Hopkins
        Mayweather
        Manny
        Roy Jones(yea he is still active)
        Wlad



        IMO these are the only active all time greats and it was and is an honor to have witnessed them
        PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards

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          #24
          Originally posted by Brandish
          PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards
          we already know you're ignorant.

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          • El Angel
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            #25
            Originally posted by Brandish
            PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards
            And I'm guessing you don't like Marcos Maidana very much either.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #26
              Originally posted by Brandish
              PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards
              manny is not?????? wlad i can agree with, but manny is by far a lock for ATG,,,
              titles at 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147

              Destroyed Kingpin Barrera
              First guy to ever stop morales
              beat JMM
              Destroyed hatton for lineal title
              destroyed Cotto
              Robbed vs undefeated bradley

              Manny's last few years have not been up to par for an ATG, but dont discount all the success he had from 1998-2009

              You have to be a complete idiot to boxing to not consider manny an ATG

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              • A_Jeffrey
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                #27
                Originally posted by Brandish
                PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards
                what standards are those? lol

                both Manny and Wlad are ATGs lol

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                  #28
                  Two of those listed are true craftsmen of the sport. Two have brought a physicality that is difficult to rival. One, could be the most successful one dimensional boxer in the history of the sport.

                  If death creeps slowly enough upon me that I see it approaching, I know with certainty, that my mind will wonder back with dreadful regret to the so many wasted hours I spent watching Wladimir Klitschko.

                  I admire his tenacity, his perseverance, and his professionalism. But that man is not an all time great. He's not in the ball park. He's not even playing the same game.

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                  • Brandish
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    manny is not?????? wlad i can agree with, but manny is by far a lock for ATG,,,
                    titles at 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147

                    Destroyed Kingpin Barrera
                    First guy to ever stop morales
                    beat JMM
                    Destroyed hatton for lineal title
                    destroyed Cotto
                    Robbed vs undefeated bradley

                    Manny's last few years have not been up to par for an ATG, but dont discount all the success he had from 1998-2009

                    You have to be a complete idiot to boxing to not consider manny an ATG
                    Ok for the last time. Manny did not win a title at 118, 126, or 140.
                    He is a legit 5 weight world champion. Where he does not measure up to the atgs of this era which are:

                    Floyd
                    Roy
                    Bhop
                    Toney
                    Tito
                    Oscar
                    Shane

                    Is that each of those fighters dominated their divisions they didn't go up and win a few titles and never defend them. Say what you want about them they defended their titles successfully for many years before moving up.

                    PAC has never dominated a division name one where he had more than 2 title defenses. PAC is hof but ATG based on my criteria he is not.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Brandish
                      PAC and woad are not ATG by my standards
                      How is Manny not an ATG???

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