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  • frantic fighter
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    #61
    Originally posted by drenlou
    That was his prime though!!!he really didnt get known until he fought alex bunema on hbo, and he was already past his prime in that fight...
    That wasn't his prime as far as technique,remember he didn't start boxing at all until he was like 22.

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    • LouIE G
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      #62
      Originally posted by sugarsmosley
      margarito beat sergio, yes. we all know that. nobody is dis*****g that, however i dont see what point you are making here brother
      If you would not jump so fast to debate me you would understand that my post that you jumped on pertained to someone elses quote!!the poster said if prime for prime segs would definately beat cotto,i disagreed and brought up serg losing to margacheato in his so called prime...thats when you jumped on my post!!!!that was my point

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      • Stark777
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        #63
        Originally posted by drenlou
        I hear you, but lets not forget that PRIME SERGIO your talking about lost to margacheato....and cotto is a very good boxer puncher and with roach in his corner cotto is gonna sit down on those punches man,martinez is a great fighter but he uses his injured legs alot and fights with his hands down,imo only one fighter gets awayvwjth that style and its mayweather....martinez been dropped in pretty much in every one of his last 5 fights so i feel cotto gonna do the same.
        I agree with everything but that Martinez was in his prime when he lost to Margarito, he wasnīt in his prime at all. His first professional fight was in 1997 and that fight was in the year 2000, only 3 years after that. He was still growing.

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        • LouIE G
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          #64
          Originally posted by frantic fighter
          That wasn't his prime as far as technique,remember he didn't start boxing at all until he was like 22.
          Prime as far as technique????prime is the physical strenghth a fighter reaches,technique only improves, it doesnt prime..

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          • LouIE G
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            #65
            Originally posted by Stark777
            I agree with everything but that Martinez was in his prime when he lost to Margarito, he wasnīt in his prime at all. His first professional fight was in 1997 and that fight was in the year 2000, only 3 years after that. He was still growing.
            Ok so how old was he then???he was 25 or 26 then,thats when you start reaching your phisical prime,aint it?he was a couple of days away from his 27th birthday i believe.
            Last edited by LouIE G; 02-20-2014, 04:27 PM.

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            • Stark777
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              #66
              Originally posted by drenlou
              Ok so how old was he then???he was 25 or 26 then,thats when you start reaching your phisical prime,aint it?

              Well yes, if you start training hard at a young age. I am way stronger and fit now that i am 32 than when I was 25, just because i didnīt train as much as now. Sergio started boxing at 22.


              Segio was way better as a boxer in the years 2006-2011, in the year 2000 he didnīt know how to use properly his left hand. He had to break his right hand to begin using his left hand properly. Also, his skills, technique, and boxing knowledge improved a lot.

              Sergio's prime years where from 2006 to 2011, in my humble opinion.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ChampBox@PR
                Maravagina has been talking shit all through out negotiations and way before. He is the only fighter claiming Cotto was a difficult person to negotiate with, etc. This is Cotto's way of saying "Fuck You" to this sissy
                ? if Cotto's the one making the fight at 159, how is Martinez the sissy?

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                • sugarsmosley
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by drenlou
                  If you would not jump so fast to debate me you would understand that my post that you jumped on pertained to someone elses quote!!the poster said if prime for prime segs would definately beat cotto,i disagreed and brought up serg losing to margacheato in his so called prime...thats when you jumped on my post!!!!that was my point
                  prime cotto was at 140, knocking out dudes with his left hook. Prime Martinez is debatable too me, I feel like actually sergio peaked in his boxing career at his early 30's. he started late, and its hard to say when he was in his prime because it took him until his 30's to step up in competition

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                  • LouIE G
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Stark777
                    Well yes, if you start training hard at a young age. I am way stronger and fit now that i am 32 than when I was 25, just because i didnīt train as much as now. Sergio started boxing at 22.


                    Segio was way better as a boxer in the years 2006-2011, in the year 2000 he didnīt know how to use properly his left hand. He had to break his right hand to begin using his left hand properly. Also, his skills, technique, and boxing knowledge improved a lot.

                    Sergio's prime years where from 2006 to 2011, in my humble opinion.
                    Yeah i can agree,i guess i can agree,but cotto back in 2006-08 before margarito was a frickin beast,i would of loved to see the fight in those years,but martinez at that time wasnt very known and they were fighting in two different weight classes which made it impossible....buts its still a very good fight at this point,and cottos got a real shot ,so im glad its happening now then never!!u know wut i mean jelly bean.

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                      #70
                      How is Cotto supposed to win this fight? He can't outbox Martinez from the outside. He tries that, Martinez will just jab him all night long like he did Dzinziruk. He tries to pressure Martinez, Martinez will counter him on the way inside. He tries to brawl with Martinez, Martinez's greater chin and power will probably win him that battle. Only way Cotto wins this fight is if he somehow can get inside and smother Martinez without taking too much damage.

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