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  • Weebler I
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    #81
    Originally posted by TexasBoxing
    Has to be the best in boxing today bar none. And this is coming from someone who cannot stand Mayweather. But holy moly at this resume:

    Wins Over

    Canelo Alvarez
    Victor Ortiz
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Shane Mosley
    Miguel Cotto
    Zab Judah
    Ricky Hatton
    Genaro Hernandez
    Angel Manfredy
    Robert Guerrero
    Juan Manual Marquez
    Arturo Gatti
    Jose Luis Castillo
    Diego Corrales

    No one can match that.
    It's probably already been said, but how many were in their prime at their strongest weight? Corrales, Castillo...and?

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    • megadeth
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      #82
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      What you don't understand is Floyd wouldn't even entertain fighting Cotto regardless of who brought it up to him. He gave several answers on why he wouldn't fight Cotto. So it doesn't matter if it was Arum, Merchant or the fans that asked the question.



      The answers changed and always ended with NO
      Ok, and why was that? Was it because he was afraid of Cotto or was it because he didn't want to put any money in Arums pockets? And because Cotto said "I will fight who is in front of me", that's entertaining the thought? IMO, it isn't if u KNOW that your promoter isn't going to bring the fight to you. What it is, is giving the question lip service. Come on, you are smarter than this. Becuase Cotto gives the right answer he wanted the fight, but because Floyd gave the wrong answer he didn't...even though NEITHER OF THEM PUSHED FOR IT??!! Bottom line is, If Cotto wanted the fight, he would've pushed for it! If Arum wanted the Cotto to have the fight he would've made a call and offered him the fight, or at least mentioned it to him.


      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      Lastly, yes, if anyone needed a break, it was Cotto. Mayweather was fighting at most twice a year IF that. I lost count how much Cotto was fighting
      I don't agree. Floyd had been in the game much longer, not to mention, the quality of opponents weren't even in the same stratisphere until Cotto got to numerous fights into his WW career.

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      • megadeth
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        #83
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        It's probably already been said, but how many were in their prime at their strongest weight? Corrales, Castillo...and?
        Excuses for your boy Hatton huh? Should've Floyd have moved down to 140 for a guy who had already declined the fight at 140 and had already won a belt at 147??

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          #84
          Originally posted by megadeth
          Ok, and why was that? Was it because he was afraid of Cotto or was it because he didn't want to put any money in Arums pockets? And because Cotto said "I will fight who is in front of me", that's entertaining the thought? IMO, it isn't if u KNOW that your promoter isn't going to bring the fight to you. What it is, is giving the question lip service. Come on, you are smarter than this. Becuase Cotto gives the right answer he wanted the fight, but because Floyd gave the wrong answer he didn't...even though NEITHER OF THEM PUSHED FOR IT??!! Bottom line is, If Cotto wanted the fight, he would've pushed for it! If Arum wanted the Cotto to have the fight he would've made a call and offered him the fight, or at least mentioned it to him.




          I don't agree. Floyd had been in the game much longer, not to mention, the quality of opponents weren't even in the same stratisphere until Cotto got to numerous fights into his WW career.
          Again, Cotto has NEVER called out anyone. You're saying he should've called out Floyd, but he didn't even call out Alphonzo Gomez, shane Mosley, margarito, judah, branco, malignaggi, trout, pacquiao, foreman, no one.

          Cotto had the better JWW and WW resume than Mayweather at the time. That's just a fact. Bruh, I like mayweather like the next man, but we gotta be honest..

          I don't know why Floyd wouldn't fight Cotto in 08. It was the biggest fight in boxing. I'm not saying he was scared, but saying a man lives to far and isn't a draw is BS
          Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 02-16-2014, 01:49 AM.

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #85
            One of the best resumes in all of the sport. Top 15 ATG fighter. Top 5 most skilled ever.

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            • Weebler I
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              #86
              Originally posted by megadeth
              Excuses for your boy Hatton huh? Should've Floyd have moved down to 140 for a guy who had already declined the fight at 140 and had already won a belt at 147??
              It's true for most of them.

              Past prime: De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Gatti, Hernandez
              Not at best weight: Marquez, Hatton, Judah, Guerrero, Alvarez, Ortiz

              Khan would be another guy who was better at 140, but fighting at 147. Maidana's record at 147 isn't great, it's built of a Broner win who himself has not looked good at WW.

              On Hatton, when Floyd was at 140, Floyd wanted no part of Hatton who was the man in the division and the draw at the time. "I'm not fighting in England" was the line. This is all on record. Hatton had to move up, and travel to get the fight. Floyd went for Gatti, and complained about having to fight in AC.
              Last edited by Weebler I; 02-16-2014, 02:05 AM.

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              • BoxingGenius27
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                #87
                I'm not saying Cotto wins, but Cotto early 2008 puts up a better more competitive fight than Hatton, baldo and DLH

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                  #88
                  Timing is everything/Floyd's resume

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                  • BoxingGenius27
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    It's true for most of them.

                    Past prime: De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Gatti, Hernandez
                    Not at best weight: Marquez, Hatton, Judah, Guerrero, Alvarez, Ortiz

                    Khan would be another guy who was better at 140, but fighting at 147. Maidana's record at 147 isn't great, it's built of a Broner win who himself has not looked good at WW.

                    On Hatton, when Floyd was at 140, Floyd wanted no part of Hatton who was the man in the division and the draw at the time. "I'm not fighting in England" was the line. This is all on record. Hatton had to move up, and travel to get the fight.
                    Off the top of my head, I'd have to disagree on Mosley. He was coming off of one of the biggest wins of his career.

                    DLH was also coming off a pretty big win against Mayorga at 154... He looked damn good that fight; I'm just saying... Sure you can say "It's Mayorga", but Mayorga beat Forrest and gave Trinidad a pretty damn good run... Even dropped him a few times and let Tito hit him with his hands down

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      Off the top of my head, I'd have to disagree on Mosley. He was coming off of one of the biggest wins of his career.
                      All right, if you honestly think Mosley was prime, I'd encourage you to go watch his fight with Ricardo Mayorga. If you still don't change your opinion after that then I don't know what to say.

                      DLH was also coming off a pretty big win against Mayorga at 154... He looked damn good that fight; I'm just saying... Sure you can say "It's Mayorga", but Mayorga beat Forrest and gave Trinidad a pretty damn good run... Even dropped him a few times and let Tito hit him with his hands down
                      De La Hoya wasn't prime, and went from bad to worse after that bout, retiring just two fights later.

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