Eubank: How I would've beaten a peak RJJ!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I was responding to a post that used Mercado as Hopkins example, rather than using the top fights that these fighters had as examples.

Like how you named only Eubank's worst performances instead of his best ones?

[tyotfo]

A contender for the TOP titles, yes! Beating a WBA or WBC fighter is what makes or made a fighter be recognized at the highest levels, the IBF partially so. WBO was and is one of the butt of all jokes made about alphabet titles!!

Just read this entire thread and you are clearly arguing not having seen any of these fighters fight!

[cameltoe]

If you had a lick of understanding of context, you would know I wasn't responding to what Eubank said, I was responding to a post that used Mercado as Hopkins example, rather than using the top fights that these fighters had as examples. And not only have I heard of those fighters, I saw their fights. If someone is going to use examples, use the top names a fighter fought when he was in his prime, rather than having an agenda where a fighter after his prime is used to compare to a fighter in his prime. There is a reason Eubanks is not even on the list of fighters who are mentioned vs Jones, it is not a fantasy matchup because he is NOT in Jones' league, and would not be remotely favored to beat Jones, period if they had fought or in retrospective. Oh, and once again, you are incapable of reading comprehension. I DID NOT dismiss those fighters, I already said Eubank was in the top ATG's at 168 and Benn was not far behind. Learn to read.

I can read, and I read all your posts yet I decided to just quote one, rather than all the ridiculous crap you've been spouting over the last 6 pages.

And you are incapable of comprehension because, still, you are arguing over something that was never said. No one has said Eubank would have beat Jones, especially not Eubank, so go back and read the first post. But don't post up garbage like you assume Eubank was some kind of tomato can just because you've never heard of him* when he was a fine fighter that would have caused Jones problems. The knowledgeable posters are at least giving reasons based on fighting styles, on how it may have played out, whereas your best effort is to try to get someone to put up a poll to prove your point.

*watching highlights on YouTube doesn't count

[Boxing Goat]

No, on top of that Jones fought the better fighters and beat the better fighters was a superior fighter, period!

This ^^^^^^

No discussion required, really.

[cameltoe]

....There is a reason Eubank is not even on the list of fighters who are mentioned vs Jones, it is not a fantasy matchup because he is NOT in Jones' league, and would not be remotely favored to beat Jones, period if they had fought or in retrospective.

Oh, and once again, you are incapable of reading comprehension. I DID NOT dismiss those fighters,I already said Eubank was in the top ATG's at 168 and Benn was not far behind. Learn to read.

Err........

[tyotfo]

The Nigel Benn that beat a prime Gerald Mclellan would have been complete hell for anyone. Roy may well have beat him but he would have taken more punches doing so then he took in the Hopkins and Toney wins combined. Roy would have probably beaten a prime Eubank but again, it's probably his hardest fight up to the Tarver series. Watson beat Benn, was taking Eubank to school and probably was the most gifted of the 3. Great era of boxing.

[tyotfo]

This ^^^^^^

No discussion required, really.

This is at the heart of why these discussions annoy me

[Boxing Goat]

Don't be a complete moron. No one ever put a prime Jones to sleep. You are obviously brand new to boxing or you would know potential matchups are NEVER weighed by what happens to a fighter past their prime. That has to be the most ****** comment I have heard here in a long time.

Anybody who thinks the Jones who fought Glenn Johnson was prime obviously has an agenda or needs to brush up on his boxing history.

[cameltoe]

The Nigel Benn that beat a prime Gerald Mclellan would have been complete hell for anyone. Roy may well have beat him but he would have taken more punches doing so then he took in the Hopkins and Toney wins combined. Roy would have probably beaten a prime Eubank but again, it's probably his hardest fight up to the Tarver series. Watson beat Benn, was taking Eubank to school and probably was the most gifted of the 3. Great era of boxing.

^ this.

Totally agree about Watson, such a tragic waste of talent.

It's nice when posters can show understanding regarding the subject they are debating.

[Boxing Goat]

This is at the heart of why these discussions annoy me

Roy is an ATG, Eubank is not.

End of thread.