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  • coghaugen
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    #161
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    If he craps on Hopkins and his resume, that must mean Eubank was a bum with 0% shot at prime RJJ; thus proving the point
    Eubank fought fighters at their peak when he was in his peak years, not a gathering of middle-aged, one-fight-a-year snore bores.

    Graciano Rocchigiani who was robbed against Maske and Michalcewski and beat Nunn (who Jones officially ducked), knocked out Hamsho (who gave Hagler fits) in a round etc. Eubank fought him in the middle of all that when he was 35-0 and the most avoided fighter in boxing. Lindell Holmes had blasted Frank Tate all over the ring and only lost to Van Horn on a body shot/exhaustion KO on his knees after dominating early. Michael Watson was tremendous against McCallum and improved from that. And Benn post-Barkley and pre-McClellan. Hopkins doesn't come close when we talk fighters in the primes of their young lives who were genuine major severe threats.

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      #162
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      Again, if you feel this way about Hopkins, then you must feel Chris Eubank was absolutely garbage, no?

      Unless you're saying Eubank is a greater fighter than Hopkins with the greater resume?
      Did Eubank ever quit or fake injury?

      Hopkins = cardinal sins of potential boxing greatness.

      Eubank = unbreakable. The opposite.

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        #163
        Originally posted by coghaugen
        Eubank fought fighters at their peak when he was in his peak years, not a gathering of middle-aged, one-fight-a-year snore bores.

        Graciano Rocchigiani who was robbed against Maske and Michalcewski and beat Nunn (who Jones officially ducked), knocked out Hamsho (who gave Hagler fits) in a round etc. Eubank fought him in the middle of all that when he was 35-0 and the most avoided fighter in boxing. Lindell Holmes had blasted Frank Tate all over the ring and only lost to Van Horn on a body shot/exhaustion KO on his knees after dominating early. Michael Watson was tremendous against McCallum and improved from that. And Benn post-Barkley and pre-McClellan. Hopkins doesn't come close when we talk fighters in the primes of their young lives who were genuine major severe threats.
        Well there we have it folks. He just explained how Chris Eubank as a fighter and resume >>>> Bernard Hopkins

        Nothing more to see here

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          #164
          Originally posted by coghaugen
          His performance against Glen Johnson was very impressive indeed. I believe that was his peak.
          Right. I actually think that was him at his peak as well. But to say he was just a "body" is pretty silly. Was he unknown? Sure. But he was already considered one of the best, pound for pound and had been for some time.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Roy Jones himself said at the time that Chris Eubank was the man who'd give him the most trouble
            Just Old man Roy being respectful.

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              #166
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              Jones is probably the most overrated (him or Tyson) fighter in history. He would have bet Eubank though not as easily a some say.
              Overrated? Roy was amazing. If anything he's now underrated. You must have just started being a boxing fan in the last ten years.

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                #167
                Originally posted by coghaugen
                'ATG' is subjective nonsense. In hindsight maybe he was better than we thought at the time, but I actually lived through that time as a boxing nut and Hopkins just a body. In fact he was just a body until he fought Trinidad.

                The guy is overrated since Trinidad. Who has he beat? Nobody. Lost twice to Jermain Taylor, the first particularly good fighter he fought in 12 years. Lost to an old Calzaghe, looked **** against an old Winky and shot Jones. Quit against Dawson, and faked injury also against Calzagne and Jones - hardly the sign of a great fighter, is it? The great fighters of the past were turning in their graves.
                Whoa, hold up.

                Are you seriously questioning Hopkins' ATG status?

                You can't be serious. You just can't be.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  Whoa, hold up.

                  Are you seriously questioning Hopkins' ATG status?

                  You can't be serious. You just can't be.
                  What's the definition of 'ATG status'?

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                    #169
                    As for Hamed, just another Eubank wannabe (as was Jones in all honesty!)... http://********/0mJ6t3zeuP4

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                      #170
                      Did Jones not say in '92 that Eubank was his favourite fighter?

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