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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by Evil Abed
    Hagler was ducked for years. He didn't win the title til his 50th fight. 7 years into his career.
    Yes but he did get fights.

    Golovkin's been a pro longer that and still can't get any.

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    • HeroBando
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      #52
      Originally posted by zuz
      Keep dreaming pal while Golovkin pumping up his fake record.



      that's it, done, end of story, forget it.



      It's not about Ward, we're talking about fight legit opposition finally.

      The guys is like 32 yo got 10 title defence.... against who?

      jeez
      Before he goes up, he should call out The Champ at SWW loudly, see if that guy has the guts to fight a hypejob. What do you think, would this SWW champ dare to face him at SWW?

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      • AVDB
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        #53
        Originally posted by J The UnBiased
        Excuses Excuses Excuses. Either he's the most feared man at 160 or he isn't. You claim Quillin won't fight you. You claim Sergio won't fight you. You claim Sturm won't fight you. WHO ARE YOU WAITING FOR ???????????????????????????????????????? MOVE THE **** UP! These guys just want to stay at 160, stay undefeated and keep him from looking bad or losing against an opponent for as long as they possibly can, so that when they do decide to move up the Carl Froch's, Bika's, Dirrell's and Ward's will be long gone so they can give you these exact same excuses at 168. They're waiting for the threats to move up so that they can move up.
        Hmmm... Continue to KO all comers and dominate at 160 or lose it all to Ward at 168??? Tough choice

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        • D-MiZe
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          #54
          Hmmm, how about to clarify the legitimacy of his fuckin' fighter?

          If they're waiting around for Martinez, they must be pissed. I really don't see that fight happening, Martinez is on his way out and even if it does happen - what does GGG really gain?

          Sure, he gains appreciation from the casual fans but those of us here know that's a faded Martinez. But what... what if he losses? Then that would set him right back and I'd guess that would be the point at which he drops the bullshit and travels to fight the best.

          He's 32 in a couple of months and 8lbs away from 2 huge fights in Ward & Froch. At the start of 2014, the middleweight division is looking like a wasteland.

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            #55
            Originally posted by D-MiZe
            Hmmm, how about to clarify the legitimacy of his fuckin' fighter?

            If they're waiting around for Martinez, they must be pissed. I really don't see that fight happening, Martinez is on his way out and even if it does happen - what does GGG really gain?

            Sure, he gains appreciation from the casual fans but those of us here know that's a faded Martinez. But what... what if he losses? Then that would set him right back and I'd guess that would be the point at which he drops the bullshit and travels to fight the best.

            He's 32 in a couple of months and 8lbs away from 2 huge fights in Ward & Froch. At the start of 2014, the middleweight division is looking like a wasteland.
            Lineal title is still pretty meaningful. Without it his detractors call him paper champ. Plus Sergio is p4p rated, a great scalp for a MW.

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              #56
              Originally posted by D-MiZe
              Hmmm, how about to clarify the legitimacy of his fuckin' fighter?

              If they're waiting around for Martinez, they must be pissed. I really don't see that fight happening, Martinez is on his way out and even if it does happen - what does GGG really gain?

              Sure, he gains appreciation from the casual fans but those of us here know that's a faded Martinez. But what... what if he losses? Then that would set him right back and I'd guess that would be the point at which he drops the bullshit and travels to fight the best.

              He's 32 in a couple of months and 8lbs away from 2 huge fights in Ward & Froch. At the start of 2014, the middleweight division is looking like a wasteland.
              He'd gain a lot because then a lot of people can't say things like this..

              Originally posted by thatdudespits
              how is he the best middleweight in the world? his last 7 opponents have lost a combined 30 fights before facing him. he's a very good fighter, but hes not great yet. Hes not even the best in his division yet. In comparison Sergio Martinez last 7 opponents had only lost a combined 5 fights before facing him. Sergio Martinez is still the best middleweight until he is beaten.

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              • MC Hammer
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                #57
                Originally posted by Evil Abed
                Bullsh$t. Name a fighter in the same situation.

                Bhop had 20 title defenses at 160. Hagler stay at 160 his entire career.


                Carlos Monzon. The list goes on.
                Broner at 135. Everyone here pushed for him to immediately go to 140 after beating Demarco.

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                  #58
                  ... So: the 160 and 168 divisions are stalling because one fighter? GGG?
                  What about all the others?

                  (I'm not even one of this guy's fans...)

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                  • D-MiZe
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Lineal title is still pretty meaningful. Without it his detractors call him paper champ. Plus Sergio is p4p rated, a great scalp for a MW.
                    On paper, yes. But fights aren't fought on paper.

                    That's if Martinez wants to step in with Golovkin. Which is unlikely as he's been dropped and in danger against two very crude brawlers compared to ze Kazakh.

                    I don't see the fight ever happening.

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                    • MC Hammer
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Its pretty clear that those who want him to move up simply want him to lose
                      That sounds familiar

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